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Performance chip/dyno pulls

I am purchasing my renegade sport 4x4 1.4l turbo this week. I was wondering if anyone has looked into or found a performance chip for the renegade and if anyone might have done some dyno tuning to get a little more pep out of their car.
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Yea I've been looking into it but I haven't heard much from this community. Perhaps we'll have to head on over to 500 Abarth forum for a moment to get some insight.

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I have the Road Race Motorsports ECM, and another member here has the Madness ECM. Numbers for either generally aren't posted; the manufacturers chose not to because every dyno will be different based on type and location. What I can say is it is quite a difference. It is the same engine as Dodge Dart and 500 abarth, which members on those forums have posted dyno sheets.
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I have the Road Race Motorsports ECM, and another member here has the Madness ECM. Numbers for either generally aren't posted; the manufacturers chose not to because every dyno will be different based on type and location. What I can say is it is quite a difference. It is the same engine as Dodge Dart and 500 abarth, which members on those forums have posted dyno sheets.

Worth buying? What's installation like and how easy is it to use? I've never altered a ecu before.
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Numbers for either generally aren't posted; the manufacturers chose not to because every dyno will be different based on type and location.
If you ask me, I do not agree with that statement...

It's like trying to sell a pig in the sack.
They sell a tuning box - which I trust is worth buying, don't get me wrong - but without providing any proof about the change in performance.

They just say "it's good, it's reliable, you will see improvement in power, many people that bought it were really satisfied etc, etc".

So you buy a product just relying on the manufacturers' and other people's word.

I am very close in ordering the ECM of madness, but one thing that is holding me back is that I am waiting for the dyno runs (before and after graphs).
I cannot order something based solely in vague statements. I need to see the graphs. I need to see how much is the gain in Hp and Torque, I need to see if the boost is increased, and I need to see at which revs I get the increase.

I don't want to see the exact numbers. I totally understand that different dynos and different circumstances give different results. But I need to see that there is a noticeable difference and it's not just an empty box with red lights blipping. I don't care if the hp climp up to 170 or 168 or 165 etc. But I need to see that they are over (for example) 155-160. The same goes for the increase in torque.

And I need to see that from the company that makes them, and not from the guys in the abarth forum or the dodge forum etc, as these guys cannot be accounted for in case I have a complain or a problem.


I cannot really understand why Madness has not uploaded any dyno runs on their site. I am sure they have a lot, otherwise how could they test that their ECM works as expected...??
Anyways, they have advised that they will provide some graphs by the end of January (if I remember correctly) but still it would not be from a renegade but from an upgraded fiat 500.

I would love to see a before and after dyno run on a stock renegade, because that will be the only way to see the true results of the ECM.
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I apologize in advance, if I seem to be getting off track here-

There seems to have been a bump in the 1.4 for h.p. in one particular model of Renegade engine; but, the torque remained the same, and it had the best 0-60 times of all models. I posted the below link in another thread; it states the model engine/Renegade. I'm wondering what is the difference between that 1.4 and the others.

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I apologize in advance, if I seem to be getting off track here-

There seems to have been a bump in the 1.4 for h.p. in one particular model of Renegade engine; but, the torque remained the same, and it had the best 0-60 times of all models. I posted the below link in another thread; it states the model engine/Renegade. I'm wondering what is the difference between that 1.4 and the others.

performance charts
From what I know, in South America the 1.4 turbo engine gives an output of 160hp with 26kg of torque, whilst in Europe and North America it gives an output of 140hp and 23,5kg of torque.
My guess is that the South American 1.4 engines have been programmed to give slightly more boost.

This is a good thing for us with the 140hp because it means that our engine can safely climb up to 160-170 hp, and still remain within manufacturer's approved boundaries.
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A local shop by me does dyno pulls for a pretty good rate so I'll get a stock graph and post in on here for everyone to see. Then I'll make the choice on what exactly I want to do. Gotta save a few pennies for the ecu and dyno tuning.
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I understand people's need for dyno graphs, and I also understand from a manufacturer or retailer point of view. Too many consumers are upset to find they don't get the result as advertised. Road Race does have dynos scattered on the internet, and they claim their abarth to be around 240hp. After digging it looks like that would be an estimated crank number.

I really don't care for the numbers, I know I'm satisfied with it after trying it (Not to say I'm done modifying) My last "tuner" was an open flash tablet on a Scion FR-S, which people praise. The gains felt from the RRM ECM are significantly better. I have timed 0-60 on my 4x4 Lat, and it is currently at 8 seconds. I could probably get it under that after playing with TC and 4wd modes, and launching.

Now, some of the companies make statements that you try it, and if you aren't satisfied, you get 100% money back. It is an easy installation, the RRM intercepts 2 sensors. I was skeptical when seeing it being a 10 minute install, but that also reinforced to me if something goes wrong, I could just take it off. What it sounds like while driving, is the solenoid is being told to stay shut longer, and what it feels like is boost doesn't taper off like stock does. It feels like pressure is held throughout the rev range.

What put me off about Madness is their claims, no real explanation of what the adjustable dial does, and I have yet to see any video of any of their products in use. I've only seen their Renegade on a showroom floor. Also they did promise performance parts to be out last year ( ie. intercooler), and haven't seen them yet. The RRM ecm is used on their own abarth, which there is a video of Jay Leno driving the car, and they also track it. You get the same ECM used on their car, that is beat on routinely.

Would anyone care to post a video of their stock 4x4 0-60 and list the mode they were in, TC off, etc.
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