Originally Posted by F3RGY68
Numbers for either generally aren't posted; the manufacturers chose not to because every dyno will be different based on type and location.
If you ask me, I do not agree with that statement...
It's like trying to sell a pig in the sack.
They sell a tuning box - which I trust is worth buying, don't get me wrong - but without providing any proof about the change in performance.
They just say "it's good, it's reliable, you will see improvement in power, many people that bought it were really satisfied etc, etc".
So you buy a product just relying on the manufacturers' and other people's word.
I am very close in ordering the ECM of madness, but one thing that is holding me back is that I am waiting for the dyno runs (before and after graphs).
I cannot order something based solely in vague statements. I need to see the graphs. I need to see how much is the gain in Hp and Torque, I need to see if the boost is increased, and I need to see at which revs I get the increase.
I don't want to see the exact numbers. I totally understand that different dynos and different circumstances give different results. But I need to see that there is a noticeable difference and it's not just an empty box with red lights blipping. I don't care if the hp climp up to 170 or 168 or 165 etc. But I need to see that they are over (for example) 155-160. The same goes for the increase in torque.
And I need to see that from the company that makes them, and not from the guys in the abarth forum or the dodge forum etc, as these guys cannot be accounted for in case I have a complain or a problem.
I cannot really understand why Madness has not uploaded any dyno runs on their site. I am sure they have a lot, otherwise how could they test that their ECM works as expected...??
Anyways, they have advised that they will provide some graphs by the end of January (if I remember correctly) but still it would not be from a renegade but from an upgraded fiat 500.
I would love to see a before and after dyno run on a stock renegade, because that will be the only way to see the true results of the ECM.