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Question Deciding between standard & automatic

Hello all - I am a new member, have been coveting a Renegade since they were released, and am finally in a position where buying one makes sense. I'm probably looking at a Latitude, given my wants/needs and price point.

I currently drive a peppy little manual transmission 2007 impreza, and so when I went to look at the Renegade I assumed I would get a standard again - I was surprised by how few are available. Particularly with MySky!

That said, I could order one from the factory. The dealer near me has a policy of charging $500 over invoice for factory orders, plus they will give you any dealer incentives offered at this time. The "dream" car I designed with them is an manual transmission anvil latitude 4x4 with MySky power & heated seats.

Here is my quandary - the dealer is quoting me a 9 month or so wait time for factory orders, and I'm not a very patient person once I decide that I'm ready to make a leap. PLUS I've gotten a bit spoiled driving our other car in the winter - it's a newer Honda Pilot and because it's an automatic, it has remote start - a big plus in the winter time. PLUS there's a 2016 automatic Latitude 4x4 on the lot with heated seats and power mysky in charcoal (an acceptable color) that is priced to sell and I imagine I could negotiate an even better deal, or at least lots of goodies thrown in - makes ownership even more affordable.

All this is to say that I'm left struggling with whether waiting for the manual transmission is worth the wait, particularly given that a)there's a great car on the lot that I could get for a great price AND b) I'd be sacrificing having the remote start (in new england winters).

I have gone back and read through some of the past threads and it seems like there are advantages and challenges with both transmissions. Some people have posted about premature clutch burnout in the manual. Those driving the automatic report sluggish shifting (and when I drove the automatic I did think it felt a bit sluggish). Am I missing anything else I should be considering as I weigh the options?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts!

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I don't have any problems with my automatic transmission.
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Boy, that's a tough one. I am driving the Rene that you have your eye on (sans color - mines Granite). I roll around in the Latitude, manual, with MySky and the Cold weather group. It's great - I love it, especially in the cold Chicago winters, and I love the MySky in the summer. But, a dealer near me had the exact model I wanted at a pretty darn good price. Have you used jeep.com to build your and look for one locally? You can put in all of your criteria - in fact, I believe you can build a 2017 manual with the cold weather package AND the remote start. Given where you are in the country, there could be one 100 or so miles away ..... just an idea.

If that doesn't work, I guess you'll have to decide how bad you want a manual. It is a hoot to drive, but probably hurts your resale, and doesn't save on gas mileage, given the recommendation for 91 octane. There have been a couple of posts about premature clutch burnout, but I don't think it's really an issue. Most folks with the manual seem really pleased.

My suggestion, if you haven't done so yet - go to a dealer with a manual Latitude (doesn't matter if its not the one you want) and drive the manual and Automatic for a while, and see what you like. See if you really, really like the manual and want to intensify your search. Good luck!
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I always preferred manuals over automatics but as I aged I started having trouble with my left hip and doctor said "no more manual vehicles, very bad for the hip". So reluctantly I started purchasing automatics and never looked back!!
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I think the manual and turbo combo is awesome! I decided to go manual again after 6 years of very non-exhilarating automatic CVT to boot. While I loved the car, I despised the lack of power or punch. This is my first turbo, and what a pleasant surprise it's been so far. I'm hooked, and with the manual this little beast has way more punch than past cars with a litre or more volume. Also, I'm not fully convinced the 9 gear auto is fully proven out. Still see way to many failures for my taste.
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Doin' fine with the auto. Thanks! To each one's own.
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First, I doubt that ordering from the factory will take 9 months. That dealer wants to sell one of his units off the lot. It's likely 16 weeks. Some have received their Renegade sooner. Sometimes an alert dealer will find the exact optioned Renegade you ordered somewhere else and get it for you much more quickly.

Second, if you really want a manual transmission, you will always kick yourself if you get the automatic. I wanted a manual but wanted the Trailhawk model which isn't available with a manual. My other car is a manual so I at least have that for a "fun to drive" car.

Drive both an auto & manual before your order and then decide which you like better.
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agree with 16 week wait time. It can even come faster mine was about 3 months
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Personally I'd be disappointed without either MySky and the Manual. Both of these make me a happy driver.

My suggestion is to search around for a 2016 manual 75th edition. MySky was standard in the 75th, and I'd hope you could still find one out there with a manual.
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