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Lightbulb Trailhawk VS 4x4 Trims Ride Height Discrepency

OK so I have read that everyone is saying the ride height is taller on a Trailhawk mostly because of the tire size, but when doing a stock tire size comparison from a Limited to a Trailhawk the numbers just don't match up. Attached is a screen grab of the ride heights 8.7" for the TH and 7.9" for all other Renegade 4x4's.



This is where it gets interesting... I own a Limited and it came stock with 225/55/18 tires which are 27.8" in diameter while the Trailhawk comes stock with 215/65/17 tires which are 28" in diameter. That is only a 0.1" difference in ride height with the tires alone because you have to divide the diameter difference by 2. So with simple math that would suggest that the springs on the Trailhawk give the a 0.7" lift. Now others have said the springs are only 0.3" in lift and the tires give 0.5" in height but that is flat wrong according to the diameters of the tire..

So can someone please explain to me how multiple threads are most likely giving the wrong information.. This is a big deal because if I am correct this means TrailHawk springs have a substantial lift than previously thought. Please correct me if I am wrong and explain with the math.. thanks
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There are more ways to change the ride height than just the springs and tires.
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TH suspension is 0.8" taller iirc, idk about tires.

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There are more ways to change the ride height than just the springs and tires.
Not on a unibody there isn't.

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I own a Limited and it came stock with 225/55/18 tires
But isn't 17" the standard for the limited?
I think 18" is an upgrade, so the numbers in that table is probably based on the standard 17" wheels.

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Not on a unibody there isn't.
I'll admit that I'm not an expert on changing the ride height of the Renegade, but a quick google image search will show you pictures of Renegade lift kits that accomplish the feat with spacers and brackets. No new springs or larger tires required.
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I'll admit that I'm not an expert on changing the ride height of the Renegade, but a quick google image search will show you pictures of Renegade lift kits that accomplish the feat with spacers and brackets. No new springs or larger tires required.
It's still a suspension lift, literally a spacer bolted to the top if the strut. Same for the drop brackets, but you can't do a body lift on a unibody, you can only do suspension lifting.

Then you can add bigger tires, wheels don't do anything aside from a different tire selection. So yep, tires or suspension is all ya get on these.

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Also, you can then add springs for a tad extra, but 3in is all you could get without a severe driveline change. You'd have to get drop engine mounts to go that high, the ATP 2in barely avoids needing it.

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The white renegade is a Trailhawk with the ATP lift. The yellow renegade is a stock Trailhawk, and the green renegade is a Limited with an ATP lift.. the green renegade looks like it only gained just over an inch in ride height over the stock Trailhawk.. where the ATP lifted Trail hawk looks like its an inch higher than the ATP lifted Limited..
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I'll admit that I'm not an expert on changing the ride height of the Renegade, but a quick google image search will show you pictures of Renegade lift kits that accomplish the feat with spacers and brackets. No new springs or larger tires required.
It's still a suspension lift, literally a spacer bolted to the top if the strut. Same for the drop brackets, but you can't do a body lift on a unibody, you can only do suspension lifting.

Then you can add bigger tires, wheels don't do anything aside from a different tire selection. So yep, tires or suspension is all ya get on these.

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I will have a set of trailhawk struts in hand today and confirm what the deal is soon enough.
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