As of 2019 the Manual Transmission is gone (US/Can); what happens to M6 resale value? - Page 2 - Jeep Renegade Forum
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Just heard about this elsewhere. WTF? Only reason I even considered a Renegade was the manual shift.

Oh, well...my next vehicle will probably be electric, anyway...
Me too...that was one of my requirements ... Manual transmission. IDK what's left now in AWD/4wd vehicles in standard Only Subarus? I think the Jeep compass dropped it too.
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I'm the other side of the fence; I've never liked manual transmissions.
I've done and continue to do some off-roading.
I do not have a dedicated trail truck, that I have to trailer to the trails because it's either unsuitable to be driven 25 miles on pavement, or it's just a trailer queen.
I don't carry spare axles and all that.
I go 4-wheeling so I can go camp and get away from everyone, not to test the limits of my vehicle.

My first car was manual, everything since has been auto.
I don't "get better mileage" or "more responsiveness" from shifting, it just doesn't work that way for me.
Probably doesn't for most people, either.

Off-road, you want your manual? Take it, I sure as hell don't want it.
I surely don't want all the electronic gizmos either.
My Range Rovers danced around jeeps and toyotas and all manner of other vehicles off-road, in supreme style and comfort.
It was all about tires and driver skill and the inherent capability of the vehicle.

It's a religion, simple as that.
And I've no interest in proselytizing or being converted.
You do you, I'll do me.

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I'm the other side of the fence; I've never liked manual transmissions.
I've done and continue to do some off-roading.
I do not have a dedicated trail truck, that I have to trailer to the trails because it's either unsuitable to be driven 25 miles on pavement, or it's just a trailer queen.
I don't carry spare axles and all that.
I go 4-wheeling so I can go camp and get away from everyone, not to test the limits of my vehicle.

My first car was manual, everything since has been auto.
I don't "get better mileage" or "more responsiveness" from shifting, it just doesn't work that way for me.
Probably doesn't for most people, either.

Off-road, you want your manual? Take it, I sure as hell don't want it.
I surely don't want all the electronic gizmos either.
My Range Rovers danced around jeeps and toyotas and all manner of other vehicles off-road, in supreme style and comfort.
It was all about tires and driver skill and the inherent capability of the vehicle.

It's a religion, simple as that.
And I've no interest in proselytizing or being converted.
You do you, I'll do me.
The discussion for me, on the loss of the manual offering, isn't which one is better. We all have our preferences. FCA has choosen to remove an option for us US buyers. I don't blame them as Americans don't buy manauls, even though in Europe they sell more manuals than automatics. It's an American thing. For me, it's boring driving an automatic, and it gives me more control over the car. For others, they don't want the hassle to shift. It's all about preference. Ironically just this week, while in Germany, my German friends asked me why Americans don't buy manuals. I couldn't answer, as I don't like automatics, and have never owned one, but an American could ask the Germans the exact opposite about why they all buy manuals. For me, it's a treat to go to Germany and you get a rental car with a standard! To each thier own. RIP to us manual owners having a choice in American.
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I love the manual. Plain and simple
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RIP to us manual owners having a choice in American.
You don't need choices.
You'll just make bad decisions.
You should just wrap yourself in bubble wrap, and uber around in a self-driving beige econobox.


Repeat after me:
Choice is bad.
I can't decide.
War is Peace.
We've always been at war with Eurasia.
2 plus 2 equals 5.

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Can you please tell me what dealer has the manual transmission. Thanks
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I have a 2016 1.4T/manual/4WD. It bewilders me why the Compass always has and continues in 2019 to offer the 6 spd manual with the 2.4L in North America. This drivetrain combo is already EPA certified, so why not make it available for the Renegade as well? I would definitely buy.
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Jeep 2019 model lineup, from econobox to luxobarge, including Jeep's "starting price" for each base model:

Renegade: $18,750
Compass: $21,845
Cherokee: $25,490
Grand Cherokee: $31,945

Yes, I know a Renegade TH will end up close to $30K.
Grand Cherokees can end up on the high side of $70K.

Wrangler & the pickup thing are off to the side somewhere.

Renegade is the bottom-of-the-barrel jeep.
Yes, we all have them, and most of us like them.
Keep it cheap & simple; do whatever you have to do to get the Fleet mpg inflated.

Target market for Renegade was never off-roaders, it was/is for millennials who want a cute car to have a lifestyle experience on the way to starbucks.
Why do you think they make them in 2-wheel drive?
Because the LumberJill poseurs at the Free-Range Organic Grocery Co-Op don't need anything else.

Besides, you can't hardly be snapbooking your facechat if you have to be shifting gears.

What's the wifi password for the car again?

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Jeep 2019 model lineup, from econobox to luxobarge, including Jeep's "starting price" for each base model:

Renegade: $18,750
Compass: $21,845
Cherokee: $25,490
Grand Cherokee: $31,945

You've gotten your numbers wrong. The 2019 Renegade starts at $22,025, more than $3,000 higher than the base 2018 model. That's due to the fact that the 2019 model forces new standard equipment like the 2.4L engine, automatic transmission, air conditioning and a few other bits.


For 2019 the basic Renegade is actually more expensive than the basic Compass. The Compass still offers a manual transmission, forgoing the cost of the automatic transmission. This would seem to conflict with a few generalizations regarding the positioning of various models.
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You're correct; I went to Jeep's website and captured the information from the starting page, which was for 2018 models, not 2019 models.
Curious.
I assumed they would have the latest models on the launch page.
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