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Gas overflow when filling

I have a 2018 Renegade Trailhawk 2.4 liter 9-speed.

When I am filling up, the pump very often kicks off prematurely. It seems like the fuel pump nozzle has to be finessed to be partially inserted to avoid kicking off.

But there are some times when it kicks off even when backed off slightly, and overflows (even when the tank is empty). It is possible that this is some combination of a car problem and a pump problem (we just completed a 2500-mile road trip where this surfaced, so haven't tried the same pump multiple times).

Very often it happens that the pump clicks off and we have to fill by hand, backing off slightly.

But 4 different times at 4 different pumps when the pump clicks off prematurely and we back it out slightly and try to fill by hand (without locking the pump on), the gas overflows. There doesn't seem to be a sweet spot -- either it clicks off when inserted a tiny bit more, or overflows when backed off a tiny bit.

Has anyone else had this problem? I've had the "kicks off too soon" problem with various vehicles, but have never seen this overflow problem.
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Had it on other cars.

Try rotating the bottom of the nozzle handle to somewhere between 8 o'clock and 4 o'clock,
instead of having it at 6 o'clock?


Here the nozzle has to be fully inserted and it's recommended to leave for 10 seconds after clicking off before removing it to avoid splashback.



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you have a capless system, they have two flaps that must be opened by the fuel nozzle, therefore it has to be fully inserted .
never top off by clicking a bit more fuel in after the pump kicks out. excess gas runs down into the vapor canister and can cause some carbon to float back up in the hose and block it off, this is the fume recovery but also the vent for the tank as you fill.
if I had to guess, you may have a partially blocked vent hose on the canister, causing your pump to kick out often.
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Believe the click unless the numbers on the pump vs. miles driven seem off.

I drive until I get the warning and then get to my preferred station. Typical fill up is 11.7 gallons. It's not a big tank.


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you have a capless system, they have two flaps that must be opened by the fuel nozzle, therefore it has to be fully inserted .
never top off by clicking a bit more fuel in after the pump kicks out. excess gas runs down into the vapor canister and can cause some carbon to float back up in the hose and block it off, this is the fume recovery but also the vent for the tank as you fill. if I had to guess, you may have a partially blocked vent hose on the canister, causing your pump to kick out often.
He's right. I USED to measure fuel economy by topping off the tank but no more. It does screw up the system as he says and can cause fueling blowback. Never had the Renegade spill but my Liberty did it everytime due to a venting design defect in the tank. Widescale problem with Libertys but no recall.

Now I just stop at the click and call it a day.

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I had fuel spew out top 1 time, when I started fueling. I wasn't paying attention and I didn't have the nozzle pushed all the way in. It was out a little. Other than that I haven't had any problems. When it kicks off for full, I usually pump more until it is at an exact dollar amount.
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My daughter has a 2018 Renegade and every time she begins to fills up she can get a little gas in and then it will spit back out at her covering her in gas. She will finally get gas going in without spitting back out and as others above the gas pump will cut off. This is only adding maybe 1 to 2 gallons and the gas gauge is showing 2 bars, so still needing around 7 gallons. After the pump shuts off it will overflow due to not shutting off again if you do not watch the amount. Any one else having these issues or suggestions to getting gas in without being covered in gas? Several of us have tried and it has done this every time since she bought it.
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My daughter has a 2018 Renegade and every time she begins to fills up she can get a little gas in and then it will spit back out at her covering her in gas. She will finally get gas going in without spitting back out and as others above the gas pump will cut off. This is only adding maybe 1 to 2 gallons and the gas gauge is showing 2 bars, so still needing around 7 gallons. After the pump shuts off it will overflow due to not shutting off again if you do not watch the amount. Any one else having these issues or suggestions to getting gas in without being covered in gas? Several of us have tried and it has done this every time since she bought it.
2018, unless she drives like it's her job, should still be under warranty. Bring it in, as it sounds like you have an issue.


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My daughter has a 2018 Renegade and every time she begins to fills up she can get a little gas in and then it will spit back out at her covering her in gas. She will finally get gas going in without spitting back out and as others above the gas pump will cut off. This is only adding maybe 1 to 2 gallons and the gas gauge is showing 2 bars, so still needing around 7 gallons. After the pump shuts off it will overflow due to not shutting off again if you do not watch the amount. Any one else having these issues or suggestions to getting gas in without being covered in gas? Several of us have tried and it has done this every time since she bought it.
Hi mdchrisley,

I sincerely regret to hear of the concern you’re experiencing with your daughter’s Renegade. To clarify, have you brought this to the attention of your servicing Jeep dealer? If not, I kindly recommend connecting with them for a diagnosis, as they are in the best position to assist. Our team is available via private message if you are in need of any assistance with that process.

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My daughter has a 2018 Renegade and every time she begins to fills up she can get a little gas in and then it will spit back out at her covering her in gas. She will finally get gas going in without spitting back out and as others above the gas pump will cut off. This is only adding maybe 1 to 2 gallons and the gas gauge is showing 2 bars, so still needing around 7 gallons. After the pump shuts off it will overflow due to not shutting off again if you do not watch the amount. Any one else having these issues or suggestions to getting gas in without being covered in gas? Several of us have tried and it has done this every time since she bought it.

You mention that "she" is having trouble. Now, I'm not blaming the victim, but have "you" tried fueling up? Is she pushing the nozzle far enough in past the flap? If the nozzle is not fully inserted past the flap, it will spill back.



If it's being fueled correctly, and under warranty, it may have a repairable warranty problem.


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