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Diesel Renegade Trailhawk/Deserthawk

W H Y ? does Europe get the 2.0L turbo diesel engine as standard in the Renegade? The Compass comes with this engine as standard!

The 2.4L Tigershark has its power & torque at high revs. The ZF 9 speed transaxle coupled to this Tigershark wants to change gear at low revs to save fuel. So software flashing will only make this combination more fuel hungry but better to drive.


In contrast the 2.0L turbo diesel has its power & torque at half the revs. A much better match to the ZF transaxle.


So come on FCA make the Europe standard a Special Edition in Australia, South Africa, Canada & USA.


FCA Australia say there is no demand for this.


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Diesel sucks. FACT!



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G'day Nev.
I see you're location is France.
Then you have 2.0L DIESEL?
Why in FACT does DIESEL suck?
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They are filthy. And not in the good way.



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Sorry Nev, FILTHY?
In a DIESEL FUEL TAX or PARTICULATE EMISSIONS sort of way?


We in Australia just re-elected the Government.
The would be Prime Minister wanted electric vehicles & to scrap DIESELS - he lost.


Does the OIL BURNING 2.4L petrol TigerShark engine SUCK less?
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Get it on your hands/shoes/paintwork, spend the rest of the day stinking like an oil fired boiler.
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I'm sorry to here that Nev,
So that's the old DIESELS?

In France nearly 100% AS 24 Service Stations have AdBlueŽ at the pump.


I had an employee who came from a farm in the UK (he lived next to the poet Pam Ayres).
He always asked to fill up the truck. It reminded him of home.


As for the STINK, that's why the French invented PERFUME, non! (tongue in check)


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For a monthly wrap-up of clean diesel news visit Diesel Direct.
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Ad-Blue. AKA: PeePee.




The 2.0l MJet thankfully doesn't have a urine tank.


Aside: Speed restrictions of -20kph here yesterday due to pollution.
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Thanks Nev,


so no PeePee in the URINE TANK = DIESEL PARTICULATE POLLUTION


PETROL + DIESEL + TAR = CRUSE OIL (roughly)
NO PROFIT from DIESEL = even more expensive PETROL



BUT your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is not in a constant battle with the OIL BURNING 2.4L TigerShark. No sluggish PuttPutt requiring Pedal to the Metal? Followed by ZF thinking about changing to a lower gear? Then a hopefully a CLUNK (gear change) & acceleration resulting in WHIPLASH? I say hopefully because sometimes ZF & TigerShark can not agree, then you STALL!



Your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is MATCHED with your FILTHY 2.0L MultiJet allowing you to drive with no problems (apart from the EXISTING pollution)?


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