[cbishop1782]

Hello! I have currently had some issues starting my renegade. The brake pedal feels normal (not hard to press) when I get into the car the press brake pedal and push start button lights up after a few seconds then when I got start there is a click (not starter click kinda sounds electronic.) And the screen goes to the MPH screen. Sometimes I do that for 4 or 5 times before the car will start. Sometimes more. Sometimes it starts a while after I've taken my foot off the pedal without having hit the button for a bit (5-20 seconds). One thing i have found is the remote start on the key fob will start it if all else fails. (Every once in a while it won't start on the first try but not often.) Any suggestions would be appreciated. I don't know if it's under warranty or not I'm sure it's electrical and I'm sure it'll be expensive.

 

[Mrsig]

and enjoy the forum!

Search is your friend! Sounds like you need a new battery to me!

 

[cbishop1782]

and enjoy the forum!

Search is your friend! Sounds like you need a new battery to me!

Thanks man I'll get one and update the post. Apologies for not searching I was half asleep when I had the idea of asking on here.

 

[puddlesplasher]

Failure of the standard fitted Jeep battery is a common occurence.

In fact battery failure is accounting for an awful lot of Jeep faults and it's very strange that faults are easily rectified by disconnecting the negative post and then reconnecting a short while later.

I wonder if there is anyone driving their Jeep after 3 years with an original battery that was never on a trickle charger.

Batter replacement for me was not so long ago.

 

[cbishop1782]

Failure of the standard fitted Jeep battery is a common occurence.

In fact battery failure is accounting for an awful lot of Jeep faults and it's very strange that faults are easily rectified by disconnecting the negative post and then reconnecting a short while later.

I wonder if there is anyone driving their Jeep after 3 years with an original battery that was never on a trickle charger.

Batter replacement for me was not so long ago.

I've never put it on a charger it just will only start on remote for the first start of the day. I did jump my wife's car last winter with my renegade. Which is apparently a no no. Lol

 

[puddlesplasher]

Page 169 of the owners manual details how to jumpstart and recharge the battery.

It is allowed and can be easily achieved if you follow the instructions.

Unfortunately my cat has his claws in my arm as I type otherwise I would quote the page as a picture. One handed typing is so slow.

 

[cbishop1782]

Page 169 of the owners manual details how to jumpstart and recharge the battery.

It is allowed and can be easily achieved if you follow the instructions.

Unfortunately my cat has his claws in my arm as I type otherwise I would quote the page as a picture. One handed typing is so slow.

No problem! Thanks for the Info. I can walk my fat arse out to the car and look at the manual anyway lol.

 

[puddlesplasher]

No problem! Thanks for the Info. I can walk my fat arse out to the car and look at the manual anyway lol.

Why are you being so abusive and negative to me for assisting you?

Its a very long passage and I am unable to type it all out verbatim for you. Why is that so wrong?

Am I missing something here as I truly believed I was being 100% helpful to you. There are many members but only a few ever reply. Please allow me a note to myself "Please stop trying to be helpful"

 

[cbishop1782]

Why are you being so abusive and negative to me for assisting you?

Its a very long passage and I am unable to type it all out verbatim for you. Why is that so wrong?

Am I missing something here as I truly believed I was being 100% helpful to you. There are many members but only a few ever reply. Please allow me a note to myself "Please stop trying to be helpful"

No no no! You misread my message. I am nothing but appreciative of your information. What I was trying to say was you shouldn't have to go through all the trouble of typing it out because I can go out to my car and get it. I apologise if that message came out wrong. Again I am nothing but appreciative.

 

[puddlesplasher]

PM received and replied to.

No apology required.

Writing is the hardest thing to understand as there is no emotion attached to it. I should know better as I fall foul of it all the time. Apologies from me to you for the misunderstanding.

Keep posting and don't be a stranger

 

[cbishop1782]

PM received and replied to.

No apology required.

Writing is the hardest thing to understand as there is no emotion attached to it. I should know better as I fall foul of it all the time. Apologies from me to you for the misunderstanding.

Keep posting and don't be a stranger

My battery is sitting at home. Here's hoping the change goes off without a hitch! I found a post on here that goes indepth on how to change it out properly. I'll follow that religiously.

 

[cbishop1782]

Seems to have gone well. I'm letting it run for a half hour or so to charge up. Started up with almost no delay. I'll see how it does in the morning and report back if it's fixed.

 

[cbishop1782]

Didn't work. Unless the new battery needed longer to charge but I left it running for a solid 20 min or more. Checked voltage on the OBD2 on my phone and it said 12.4v (control module voltage). I hooked up a trickle charger hit the start button after a few minutes nothing, and then went to get out and turn the charger/jumper to jump it. Then it started as I got out of the vehicle. Foot not on the brakes or anything. There was a throttle control light on when I got into the car and the yellow engine light flashed a few times but no codes came up. Any ideas?

 

[puddlesplasher]

A totaly dead battery can sometimes be revived but it will take a few hours with a newer, modern battery charger that pulses the battery.

A flat battery should take a charge within around 2 hours as you are only topping it up.

However getting a jump start and going for a very long run will certainly assist in the recharging process but I am afraid that running the engine for 20 minutes won't recharge anything.

Never run the engine and recharge with a trickle charger or a battery charger still attached for safety reasons.

12.4v on the display is also what we all receive and it goes a little higher with the engine running. It just lets you know the alternator is working
Fingers crossed

 

[ClearyNW]

The starting on it's own is scary!
I had a similar situation where computer seemed to be messed up after jumping. Maybe some sparks from the trickle charger confused your computer?
My battery was original and after replacing it with a new AGM type things seem to be fine. You may have to go to an auto parts store to have it done, as dealer may say battery is OK. Battery removed for a while may reset the computer.
My experience with older lead-acid batteries is that, once they go dead, they not be able to hold a charge.

 

[cbishop1782]

The starting on it's own is scary!
I had a similar situation where computer seemed to be messed up after jumping. Maybe some sparks from the trickle charger confused your computer?
My battery was original and after replacing it with a new AGM type things seem to be fine. You may have to go to an auto parts store to have it done, as dealer may say battery is OK. Battery removed for a while may reset the computer.
My experience with older lead-acid batteries is that, once they go dead, they not be able to hold a charge.

Thanks for the info! The trickle charger was never put on the old battery just a brand new one. I even unhooked both battery terminals and charged the new battery to full so as not to mess with the electronics. The new battery was installed by me and it has been sitting at 13.2 volts (on my own voltmeter) every morning and it still won't start on the first push of the button at first start. I have an appointment at the dealership. If they say it's a dead battery they can keep the thing lol.

 

[puddlesplasher]

There have been a few posts recently on the forum unrelated to the battery that were solved and I wonder if you too could be experiencing the same. A broken wire within their loom was found and once fixed solved the members issues.

Seeing as you have tried numerous, failed attempts to get the Jeep started I wonder if you could have an underlying electrical issue with your ignition wiring loom.

 

[cbishop1782]

There have been a few posts recently on the forum unrelated to the battery that were solved and I wonder if you too could be experiencing the same. A broken wire within their loom was found and once fixed solved the members issues.

Seeing as you have tried numerous, failed attempts to get the Jeep started I wonder if you could have an underlying electrical issue with your ignition wiring loom.

That could be it! The Jeep has been good to me lately with starting up after the 2nd or 3rd press of the button. Was thinking of a loose wire!

 

[cbishop1782]

Well the dealership got it to recreate the issue and said it needs a new start button. Hopefully it's that and not the wire! It was getting signal from the key but not the button.

 

[puddlesplasher]

Excellent. great to see you getting a resolution