[hoodoo]

If I buy 4 new wheels for my snow tires, I'm wondering if I can mount them without TPMS sensors? I imagine the warnings would show up in the dashboard, but is there some way to dismiss them semi-permanently and use the wheels with no TPMS for the winter?

 

[Section ThirtyOne]

I am also interested to know the answer to this.

 

[raz-0]

This is a sketchy area. There is absolutely no requirement you have working tpms sensors. However the installer can be fined heavily for disabling a tpms system.

If a car rolls in with non functional tpms it can roll out with one.

If a car rolls in with a functioning tpms system, it has to roll out with one.

If you bring in a set of wheels, and they are never mounted on a vehicle while in the shop, they should not need tpms sensors. That doesn't mean the shop will do that though.

 

[syzygy]

This is a sketchy area. There is absolutely no requirement you have working tpms sensors. However the installer can be fined heavily for disabling a tpms system.

If a car rolls in with non functional tpms it can roll out with one.

If a car rolls in with a functioning tpms system, it has to roll out with one.

If you bring in a set of wheels, and they are never mounted on a vehicle while in the shop, they should not need tpms sensors. That doesn't mean the shop will do that though.

That seems to be a legal thing rather than a practical thing?

 

[raz-0]

That seems to be a legal thing rather than a practical thing?

Yes, US regulatory issue, not a practical problem. The only practical issue with the TPMS is if you want the warning light etc. to show or not.

 

[hoodoo]

This is a sketchy area. There is absolutely no requirement you have working tpms sensors. However the installer can be fined heavily for disabling a tpms system.

If a car rolls in with non functional tpms it can roll out with one.

If a car rolls in with a functioning tpms system, it has to roll out with one.

If you bring in a set of wheels, and they are never mounted on a vehicle while in the shop, they should not need tpms sensors. That doesn't mean the shop will do that though.

Thanks raz-0 - I will probably purchase some TPMS sensors for the set of snow tires and wheels. Now I need to figure out which ones will work that aren't too expensive. Does anyone have any recommendations?

 

[txjeeper35]

There are only 2 kinds of tpms sensors. 2 different MHz ratings. I didn't check the frequency when I flipped my tires last week. I'll check when I put my Yokohamas on in a month. Or so.

Tpms is a mandate from the Gov to the automakers. It's up to the customer once it's in their hands to keep it going. You would not believe how many people care less about the little yellow ! On their dash. I can maintain my own air pressure sure, but I am not sensitive enough to tell when a tire is going down. Unless it's already low, it's fairly obvious.

Typically sensors are 60-80$ each. This is retail so perhaps tirerack.com is cheaper

 

[fmunk]

Question is why skimp on the sensors? Not like they are terribly expensive.

 

[syzygy]

They are 433Mhz.

 

[syzygy]

Question is why skimp on the sensors? Not like they are terribly expensive.

They are $370 for a set here.

 

[Nick1236]

They are $370 for a set here.

Screw THAT!

 

[Shiverman]

I changed my tires/wheels 3 days ago to snows with no TPMS sensors in my Renegade North(Canadian Latitude).

for the first day i could see the tire pressure from the old tires.
the second day on the way home the light came(blinked for a bit then solid) on on the dash and the menu said something about maintain TPMS.
this morning on my commute. I cant get to the TPMS in the menu and the warning light is no longer lit on the dash.

 

[txjeeper35]

I cant get to the TPMS in the menu and the warning light is no longer lit on the dash.

It's is entirely possible you have found an override to the tpms telltale!

 

[JeepCACares]

I changed my tires/wheels 3 days ago to snows with no TPMS sensors in my Renegade North(Canadian Latitude).

for the first day i could see the tire pressure from the old tires.
the second day on the way home the light came(blinked for a bit then solid) on on the dash and the menu said something about maintain TPMS.
this morning on my commute. I cant get to the TPMS in the menu and the warning light is no longer lit on the dash.

Shiverman,

Sorry to hear about the TPM's concern. TPMS malfunctions may occur for a variety of reasons, including the installation of replacement or alternate tires or wheels on the vehicle that prevent the TPMS from functioning properly.

With the winter tires lacking sensors, there could be a communication error. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to your Jeep Dealer. Keep us posted if you can.

Kathleen
Top Care Specialist
FCA Canada

 

[Shiverman]

Shiverman,

Sorry to hear about the TPM's concern. TPMS malfunctions may occur for a variety of reasons, including the installation of replacement or alternate tires or wheels on the vehicle that prevent the TPMS from functioning properly.

With the winter tires lacking sensors, there could be a communication error. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to your Jeep Dealer. Keep us posted if you can.

Kathleen
Top Care Specialist
FCA Canada

Hi Kathleen,

I Currently have winter tires with no TPMS sensors. Should the indicator light on the dash remain on? as well i can no long view the tire pressure page in the menu. Is this functioning as expected?

This is what the Manual Says
Your vehicle has also been equipped with a TPMS
malfunction indicator to indicate when the system is
not operating properly. The TPMS malfunction indicator
is combined with the low tire pressure telltale.
When the system detects a malfunction, the telltale
will flash for approximately one minute and then
remain continuously illuminated. This sequence will
continue upon subsequent vehicle start-ups as long
as the malfunction exists.


Regards

I have attached a photo to showing the Tire pressure is no longer in my vehicle info tab and the coolant temp is the first info.

*Note i have been having trouble getting to dealership to also repaint the door handle to match the car(it was damaged before delivery) ive been there twice and that issues still hasnt been resolved....

 

[JeepCACares]

Hi, Shiverman

I checked the Owner's Manual again and this is what I found:

Service TPMS Warning – Page 378 of the Owner’s Manual

When a system fault is detected, the “Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will flash on and off for 75 seconds and then remain on solid. The system fault will also sound a chime. If the ignition is cycled, this sequence will repeat, providing the system fault still exists. The Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will turn off when the fault condition no longer exists. A system fault can occur due to any of the following:

1. Jamming due to electronic devices or driving next to facilities emitting the same radio frequencies as the TPMS sensors.
2. Installing some form of aftermarket window tinting that affects radio wave signals.
3. Lots of snow or ice around the wheels or wheel housings.
4. Using tire chains on the vehicle.
5. Using wheels/tires not equipped with TPMS sensors.

Please keep an eye on your PM inbox.

Kathleen
Top Care Specialist
FCA Canada

 

[syzygy]

Hi, Shiverman

I checked the Owner's Manual again and this is what I found:

Service TPMS Warning – Page 378 of the Owner’s Manual

When a system fault is detected, the “Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will flash on and off for 75 seconds and then remain on solid. The system fault will also sound a chime. If the ignition is cycled, this sequence will repeat, providing the system fault still exists. The Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will turn off when the fault condition no longer exists. A system fault can occur due to any of the following:

1. Jamming due to electronic devices or driving next to facilities emitting the same radio frequencies as the TPMS sensors.
2. Installing some form of aftermarket window tinting that affects radio wave signals.
3. Lots of snow or ice around the wheels or wheel housings.
4. Using tire chains on the vehicle.
5. Using wheels/tires not equipped with TPMS sensors.

Please keep an eye on your PM inbox.

Kathleen
Top Care Specialist
FCA Canada

I love 2. Does it use bendy radio waves?>
5 is what he/she has, but the actual screen is no longer viewable.

 

[Shiverman]

Hi, Shiverman

I checked the Owner's Manual again and this is what I found:

Service TPMS Warning – Page 378 of the Owner’s Manual

When a system fault is detected, the “Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will flash on and off for 75 seconds and then remain on solid. The system fault will also sound a chime. If the ignition is cycled, this sequence will repeat, providing the system fault still exists. The Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Light” will turn off when the fault condition no longer exists. A system fault can occur due to any of the following:

1. Jamming due to electronic devices or driving next to facilities emitting the same radio frequencies as the TPMS sensors.
2. Installing some form of aftermarket window tinting that affects radio wave signals.
3. Lots of snow or ice around the wheels or wheel housings.
4. Using tire chains on the vehicle.
5. Using wheels/tires not equipped with TPMS sensors.

Please keep an eye on your PM inbox.

Kathleen
Top Care Specialist
FCA Canada

Based on this would you say that the this is not working as intened in my car. Since Its no longer visible in the Menu and the Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Ligh is no longer lit?

Since i am triggering a A TPMS system fault by Using wheels/tires not equipped with TPMS sensors.

 

[JeepCACares]

Based on this would you say that the this is not working as intened in my car. Since Its no longer visible in the Menu and the Tire Pressure Monitoring Telltale Ligh is no longer lit?

Since i am triggering a A TPMS system fault by Using wheels/tires not equipped with TPMS sensors.

Shiverman:

When your vehicle is at the dealer for the door handle concern, have the service department look at the TPM. If you can demonstrate to them, that would be helpful.

Kathleen

 

[Shiverman]

So i took it to the dealership.

the Service rep didn't seem interested in looking into it. but told me that the newer cars if there are no TPMS then the light shouldnt stay lit and its was working as intended.