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I'm in shock after the turn of events over the last month. Let me start from the beginning.

Two years ago, we purchased a 2013 Dodge Dart SXT special edition, 6 speed manual with the 1.4L turbo. Within a few hundred miles, it saw the shop for hesitation issues and a ticking sound at idle in the shifter. Then a few months later it went back into the shop for a TSB on the rattling interior dome light in the rear passenger section. Few more months went by, the clutch went out and needed a new master and slave cylinder.

The last straw happened a month ago when me and my wife returned from our wedding in July only to find the Dart completely dead at home. I tested the battery, and it passed my voltmeter tests and so did the alternator. Jumped it and it started fine. Hours later, had no problems starting it. Came out the next morning and it was dead. I had nothing plugged into any outlets so I had no idea what drained it. Trying to start the car would cause the windshield wipers to turn on and the needles on the gauges to tick. It was dead again.

On the drive to work for my wife on a highway, she cancelled her Cruise Control (Not turned off) and took a corner onto another highway. The gauges all lit up like a Christmas tree and the needles bounced. Her car started fishtailing in the turn. After almost hitting the side concrete barriers, she regained control. Shortly afterwards, the car accelerated to over 100 mph on its own and wouldn't let her slow down. She finally was able to get the cruise control completely off and pulled the car over to the shoulder and called me panicked at 6:30 am. Not a normal phone call I get at all so I know it was serious. Chrysler towed the vehicle at no charge to the dealership we got it from and held onto it.

After a month of "we replaced the battery and flashed the ECU", Chrysler offered to buy back the Dart at full MSRP minus a usage fee.

After a hectic month, we got a chance to drive several loaner vehicles and my wife loved the Renegade because it fit her back well since she has a back injury. We found a 2015 Sierra Blue Renegade Lattitude that had the popular equipment group and the cold weather package which was perfect for the options we wanted. We got it in the 2.4L engine with the 9 speed auto transmission. Really excited, we got all the paperwork done quickly and we were on our way on Saturday, 8/22. The car started with 51 miles. We drove home, then realized we forgot something in a loaner vehicle so we drove back to get it. We threw our FIRST check engine light at 81 miles on the way back. The oil pressure light was on solid, and the ETC light (lightning bolt one) was flashing. The engine went into limp mode and we couldn't go over 35 mph. We took it to the dealership and they cleared the codes in the service department and gave us the car back. Just yesterday, the light came on again for my wife on her trip to work, same conditions again. Chrysler towed the vehicle on a flatbed to the dealership and it currently sits there diagnosing the P0108 code. This is most likely due to a poor quality control of the vehicle and it has a vacuum leak is my first thought, but we won't know more until today or later this week.

As you can see, this is highly frustrating. I personally drive a 2015 Toyota Corolla LE Eco Premium and I drove it back from Columbus, GA to Austin, TX without a single issue. I've always been a japanese car fan because they are very reliable. Chrysler reliability has me really second guessing both of these purchases at this point. I really like the Renegade. It's a fun, nimble car, and has spunk. It fits my wife perfectly with her personality and her back. I just don't want to have to worry about finding it on the side of a road needing to be towed.

Not a first good experience unfortunately, but we will see what happens in the end result with the Renegade. I really don't want to have to lemon a vehicle. Thankfully, the dealership we have dealt with has been fantastic. Mainly, the general manager.
 

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Just a question. Did the dealer just clear the errors out without reading and diagnosing them? I have trouble believing it would put you in limp mode without throwing codes. I'm not going to defend the failure, but if that's what they did, your dealership's service department is awful.
 

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Just a question. Did the dealer just clear the errors out without reading and diagnosing them? I have trouble believing it would put you in limp mode without throwing codes. I'm not going to defend the failure, but if that's what they did, your dealership's service department is awful.
The service department has treated us terribly until the general manager got involved. They basically called my wife a liar about her Dart when she explained what happened. One of them even had the nerve to ask why my Corolla was in the shop getting Xpel Ultimate wrap put on the entire front thinking it had a problem and was an unreliable Toyota. Not impressed at all. When we brought it back the first time on Saturday, it was after 5 pm CST so the service department was technically closed. The GM drove it over there, had a mechanic look at it and they just cleared the codes real fast. I didn't even know it was a P0108 until yesterday. I was told that was also the code thrown on Saturday as well. We were told to just drive it and if the dash lit up again, come back in.

They tried to tell me they were "stored codes" and just needed to be cleared. I didn't buy it. I told him we would be back when it comes back on and sure enough, it only took barely a day for it to happen. I made sure they documented that code clear for Saturday in the system as a visit. I'm keeping tabs on all of this.
 

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It's confirmed to be a wiring issue and they called a STAR line to track everything. There is another Renegade going through this as well which I'm sure I can find if I dig some more. I remember reading about various electrical issues in these vehicles. They are putting an ETA of this afternoon on it being done so we're crossing our fingers. Apparently, the STAR line is to document this for future fixing since the vehicle is so new.

I will post the detailed documentation of the work performed as I always want to see this anytime something is done to a car.
 

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A wiring issue? I wonder if it similar to the pinched wire issues mentioned elsewhere in the forum.

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Inexperienced assembly workers at the plant....
Reminds me of the recent recall on the 2015 Grand Cherokee where the rear suspension was installed improperly and owners where told to stop driving the vehicle immediately.
 

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We didn't get the car back yesterday. They are still working on it and verifying with STAR that the fix they are doing is the right one with the engineers as well as the other Renegade having the problem.

"Gumball" (Wife named it since it looks like a blue gumball) is due for paint protection film and ceramic window tint next Wednesday so I sure hope it's back in our hands by then. I have a feeling we'll see it either today or tomorrow. I'm really wanting to see the paperwork so I can tell if it was a QC issue at the plant.

It's not even my car and I miss it. I love the sound system with the sub. I'm jealous of it. Jealous to the point where I'm going to put a sub in my Corolla!
 

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I'm in shock after the turn of events over the last month. Let me start from the beginning.

Two years ago, we purchased a 2013 Dodge Dart SXT special edition, 6 speed manual with the 1.4L turbo. Within a few hundred miles, it saw the shop for hesitation issues and a ticking sound at idle in the shifter. Then a few months later it went back into the shop for a TSB on the rattling interior dome light in the rear passenger section. Few more months went by, the clutch went out and needed a new master and slave cylinder.

The last straw happened a month ago when me and my wife returned from our wedding in July only to find the Dart completely dead at home. I tested the battery, and it passed my voltmeter tests and so did the alternator. Jumped it and it started fine. Hours later, had no problems starting it. Came out the next morning and it was dead. I had nothing plugged into any outlets so I had no idea what drained it. Trying to start the car would cause the windshield wipers to turn on and the needles on the gauges to tick. It was dead again.

On the drive to work for my wife on a highway, she cancelled her Cruise Control (Not turned off) and took a corner onto another highway. The gauges all lit up like a Christmas tree and the needles bounced. Her car started fishtailing in the turn. After almost hitting the side concrete barriers, she regained control. Shortly afterwards, the car accelerated to over 100 mph on its own and wouldn't let her slow down. She finally was able to get the cruise control completely off and pulled the car over to the shoulder and called me panicked at 6:30 am. Not a normal phone call I get at all so I know it was serious. Chrysler towed the vehicle at no charge to the dealership we got it from and held onto it.
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If your wife will drive another time a manual gearbox car, maybe it is useful that You teach her to push the clutch pedal, the car will not accelerate anymore.
One of the advantages of manual gearboxes.
 

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If your wife will drive another time a manual gearbox car, maybe it is useful that You teach her to push the clutch pedal, the car will not accelerate anymore.
One of the advantages of manual gearboxes.
Exactly. She lived in Alaska and drove manual transmissions for years. I think it was more of panic that set in at that point than to think about something like that since it fishtailed prior. Unfortunately, I wasn't there so I can only go off her word, but after driving manuals for the past 8 years I would have done the same.
 

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Howdy all. I'm new to the forum. Looks like we've joined the ranks of Renegades with serious electronic issues. We picked up our Trailhawk on Sunday, August 16th and fell immediately in love! However, just four days later, the power steering stopped working (with a warning message), and we also got the following additional warnings: check engine, check airbags, electric check parking brake. In addition, the AutoStick stopped working. We limped to the dealership, who have now been working on the car longer than I was able to drive it! They still don't have a solution. When I spoke with them yesterday, they said that the tech working on it is "frustrated" (join the club), and has been on the horn frequently with Chrysler trying to figure out the problem.

Has anyone seen the light at the end of the tunnel with similar problems?

Bill S.
 

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Howdy all. I'm new to the forum. Looks like we've joined the ranks of Renegades with serious electronic issues. We picked up our Trailhawk on Sunday, August 16th and fell immediately in love! However, just four days later, the power steering stopped working (with a warning message), and we also got the following additional warnings: check engine, check airbags, electric check parking brake. In addition, the AutoStick stopped working. We limped to the dealership, who have now been working on the car longer than I was able to drive it! They still don't have a solution. When I spoke with them yesterday, they said that the tech working on it is "frustrated" (join the club), and has been on the horn frequently with Chrysler trying to figure out the problem.

Has anyone seen the light at the end of the tunnel with similar problems?

Bill S.
Sounds like your ECM isn't happy, but it could be a multitude of things. Were you able to pull any codes if it threw any? Those tend to be the "hints" at where to look.

On a positive note, Gumball was up on the rack getting its fix as of 30 minutes ago. Here's to hoping we have her back tonight!
 

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Hi Blue, Hope you get Gumball back. I just spoke to my service guy, and he said that they've concluded that the ABS module is the root cause. I'm a little doubtful that a problem with the ABS would cause so many other failures, but then again, I always say that I don't know anything about cars built after 1975, and I certainly don't know anything about computers. We'll have to see, I guess.
 

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Hi Blue, Hope you get Gumball back. I just spoke to my service guy, and he said that they've concluded that the ABS module is the root cause. I'm a little doubtful that a problem with the ABS would cause so many other failures, but then again, I always say that I don't know anything about cars built after 1975, and I certainly don't know anything about computers. We'll have to see, I guess.
Sadly, everything is computer controlled these days. That ABS module can cause havoc to the ECM thinking many other problems exist. It's more like a trial and error type situation when you replace things when it involves electric.

We didn't get the car back last night, but the tech is now going through the procedures for the P0108 code. The only thing really holding this all back is the tech having to report to STAR for every attempt to fix or pursue a fix. Tomorrow will be 1 week since we bought the car and we only got to drive it for not even a day. :(
 
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