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Hi all! New to the Jeep world. I've been driving a Honda Fit. I want to get outdoors. My first thought was the Wrangler, but then I found the Renegade Trailhawk! Love at first sight!
Do Jeeps last 4-5 years? I'm unsure. Should I just lease? I don't like the repair dealings of used cars.
 

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With this being a completely new vehicle, and with me knowing how much more likely new vehicles are to have flaws i think initially i will be leasing.

But i have heard pro's and con's to leasing and financing.
At the moment i'm not sure what exactly to suggest to you but when in doubt, lease. You can always buy the vehicle at the end if you know for sure you want to keep it.
 

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Older Jeeps were known to last through quite a bit. Newer jeeps don't seem to be as robust. As for the Renegade, well it is built with a lot of Fiat design, and I expect that it will be slightly more durable than the average Fiat of comparable cost. Of course that is just a guess.

With it being a new vehicle, there will certainly be kinks that will need to be worked out.

Now as far as buying vs financing: That is a complex question that depends on a lot of variables. If you drive a lot, buying might be better so you don't have to worry about mileage restrictions. If you want a new car ever year or two, leasing might be better so you don't take the initial drop in value of driving a new car off of the lot. If you like to modify your vehicle at all, buying might be better. There is a lot to it. Personally, I bought my 08 Jeep Patriot. It is still going well without the need for too many expensive repairs (normal brakes and tires, control arm, cv joint, etc). I paid it off in 2012 and have been enjoying the last 2 years of not having any payment. That means that even if I have to spend a couple hundred each year on repairs, its cheaper than a lease payment. Of course, that also means that I am driving around in a 6 year old vehicle and not a 1-2 year old.
 

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It's really really hard to say what the right thing is. It's a new car. New design, based of the fiat punto chassis after several rounds of being reworked, engineered across at least three continents. Who knows? what's intolerable for you?

Do you care about number of problems, or cost to keep it running?

If you look at the honda jazz (aka the EU version of the fit) and the punto (aka. the parent vehicle for the 500l which is the parent chaassis of the renegade and 500x), the incident rate is about double that for the jazz with the gap widening at years 6-7.

This car won't be that car though, and who knows what the total cost was? By the same token, you can ask about "recent" jeeps, and people will tell you about the TPIM issues that plagued chrysler cars. Ask people about subarus and they'll tell you they are reliable. I have one, yeah it hasn't left me stranded, but it has a designed in wheel bearing problem. Even with the "recall" for them all they did was replace them free until you hit 8 years or 100k miles. That leaves me paying for it at least once out of pocket at $800. Changing the plugs requires an engine hoist or jack and a lift. So they cost $500. The jeep transverse 4 in the patrio is the cost of plugs in the driveway. At a bit over 100k on the odometer I will have paid $1000 for spark plugs. This is not considered and incident. But the car will cost me about $1800 on stuff I probably wouldn't have to shell out on a jeep vs. the jeep TPIM at about $1200 which doesn't have an analogous issue in my subaru. At the time I bought my car, subaru was the top rated brand for reliability, but it is costing me the same or more than one that was below the industry average to maintain and I'm not having any unusual problems with it. Most issues I've had are shared by many, many other legacy owners of the same model year(s).

The real answer is that you lease accepting the idea that you will pay a little more if you choose to buy it out, or you turn it in and suffer the general costs of a lease. Or you buy and roll the dice, just like every other new or mostly new parts model. Or you wit a year or two to buy in and see what happened to the early adopters.

The one caveat to that is if Jeep offers insane leasing deals to move units and hit their numbers. Then the answer may just be lease on those beneficial terms and decide later to stay or not. Around here they offered some truly insane grand cherokee leases the last couple of years where paying off the residual plus payments made was on par with negotiating a purchase price the equivalent of invoice discounted by most, if not all, of dealer holdback. Your real out of pocket over buying was going to be whatever you got hit with for GAP insurance.
 

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I can talk as a Jeep owner now, no they are not durable...

Here in Montreal, lease is not a great option at Chrysler, they do not call it lease actually, it has a weird name of Customer Choice something and the interest rates in that are ridiculously high... Thus it is a bad idea to lease a Jeep here in Montreal considering the high interest rate...

But if interests were low like the one offered by other makes or if in your area (US?) it is a different story in terms of interest rates then yes, it is a better option for a Jeep and for a brand new model...

I look forward to test drive the Renegade TH but now I see very slim chances I will go for it as my 2010 well maintained Patriot is making 100 sound and squeak and vibration from all parts...

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I don't think that Fiat has a particularly good reputation for quality and durability. Not sure if that will spill over to Jeep though.
yup if we actually where in the 1980ies i would agree ... but times have changed in the meanwhile a lot ... you ever owned a Fiat? What model what year?
 

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New CR Survey results have hit the news wires:

Toyota Tops, Fiat Chrysler Last In Consumer Reports Quality Survey
Toyota Motor Corp's namesake brand and its Lexus luxury brand finished one-and-two for the second year in a row in Consumer Reports' annual quality survey of the U.S. new-vehicle market.
The four lowest-scoring brands were all from Fiat Chrysler Automobiles' Chrysler Group, as were five of the bottom seven. Fiat scored the lowest of the 28 brands and the Fiat 500L was named the least reliable among 265 models included in the survey.

https://screen.yahoo.com/wochit/toyota-tops-fiat-chrysler-last-123643041.html
 

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Indeed, Jeep has issues, most of them electronic. Furthermore, the Caliber-platform models, the Compass and Patriot, lag behind the three other models in terms of durability, sound insulation, and overall quality. I would take this Consumer Reports survey with a grain of salt, however. The latest version of UConnect is getting raves, and by 2016, I hope Apple Car Play and Android Auto could be options in many Jeep models.
 

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The Wrangler has the best resale value of any vehicle in the entire U.S. For that reason, leasing is a GREAT option on the Wrangler.

For all other Jeeps, the value drops like a rock. Chrysler's horrible reputation of the 90s and early 00s is slowly erroding away, but you can still see it in values on the used market. For these Jeeps, pick the financing option that will allow you to pay the principle down fastest and go with it so you don't get screwed.
 

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That´s just as with the ADAC Scandal over here in Germany last year ... it just came out that they have cheated nearly every ranking in the last 5 reliability tests ... you get what you pay for (also in tests)
Any details? I ran into them trying to determine reliability of fiat products, and was unaware of this. What were they doing/allowing to be done?
 

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Go to any New Jeep Cherokee site (forum) and look at the transmission section. Buybacks and Lemon Law cases galore!
And you will have many more that are happy and no problems with their Cherokee.

Going to a forum to check reliability of any vehicle isn't going to be accurate, the sample size is too small and people will only post problem unless that are dedicated to the vehicle/maker. Also, people that hate a brand will go to a forum dedicated to that at brand and make fake post about issues.


If the issue with the transmission was as widespread as the online forums made it seem, the government would have stepped in because it would be a safety issue.

There have been over 100k cherokees sold since release, the number of transmissions replaced is in the 2% range. Like all new car, a majority of them have no issues.

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