Them showing it out in the wild on off-road terrain should help people see that it's still a real jeep seeing how it's the smallest one yet but still capable enough.
Them showing it out in the wild on off-road terrain should help people see that it's still a real jeep seeing how it's the smallest one yet but still capable enough.
It's very nice to see a Renegade in action. Some what of a confidence builder. A real Jeep and real unpaved roads. The one scene where it goes from the paved road to the dirt seemed to handle well and transition from one to another the way you would expect a Jeep to do it. DUH, it is a Jeep. Yes it's not climbing any major hills or rocks, but looked quite capable of taking on snow, sand and dirt, with some hills. It makes me wish I could go out and test drive one today.I that is going to be a big focus in advertising the Renegade, convincing people that it is a true Jeep that can handle off-roading. People are understandably skeptical.
I'm going to withhold judgement until I really see it in action in perhaps a TFL Car video or another real world review, hopefully with some off road action. The commercial is nice but i want MOAR!!!
That is an interesting point, and I think you may be right. European reviews should give us a different perspective though. Maybe that other perspective will be valuable to us.The thing about the Euro reviews is they may not satisfy our desires. We all want to know if Renegade is a REAL jeep, can it handle X and Y, what about Z? I just feel like Europe may not have the same concerns as us nor be as attached to the brands lineage.
If you think you are seeing a mini wrangler, then no the reviews probably won't help. For a butt-load of interested buyers, they will help more. The big problem will probably be that price and fuel economy are two major issues for any vehicle, and the european market won't really tell us much that will matter here on those counts either.That is an interesting point, and I think you may be right. European reviews should give us a different perspective though. Maybe that other perspective will be valuable to us.
The big problem will probably be that price and fuel economy are two major issues for any vehicle.
Fiat PR ramblings mentioned it getting 32mpg in every trim. with a 9 speed, a NA 4 banger, and reasonably selected tires, that shouldn't be that too hard to do.I agree. And the video didn't say "best in class in fuel economy". I'm really starting to wonder what the EPA rating will be for highway.
Fiat PR ramblings mentioned it getting 32mpg in every trim. with a 9 speed, a NA 4 banger, and reasonably selected tires, that shouldn't be that too hard to do.
That's what i was thinking too, I expected that by now we would see just about everything that we would want to know about the renegade, even lengthy reviews from automotive publications.For being close to August, I'm surprised that we haven't found out more. 32 mpg is a lower number than what I had hoped for. I'm not sure if the North American 2014 Renegade is going to be worth it to me. I was hoping for 36+ mpg with a diesel engine and a higher towing rating. The Ram 1500 ecodiesel is a full-sized pickup and is rated for 28 mpg. Real-world driving shows people getting 30 mpg. And the Renegade can only do 32? Nah, Jeep needs to offer a diesel in the North American market to get my attention.
Why would you expect that. We are looking at a late MY15 release scheduled for north America. Why would you spend the money on coverage that you would just have to do again closer to release? The best news in the world will be old and unexciting by then. Any bad news will be turned into the end of days by online commenters.That's what i was thinking too, I expected that by now we would see just about everything that we would want to know about the renegade, even lengthy reviews from automotive publications.
We are looking at a late MY15 release scheduled for north America. .
Lots getting 28 highway though, which actually surprises me these days. I'm not used to manufacturers claims being less than a small bag of lies.
I've read December to January release for the Renegade.I thought I had read that they will be on the lots by the end of November?
Those are EPA numbers, not manufacturer claims, correct?
EPA estimates are somewhat of a misconception. Manufactures test for their own fuel mileage, the EPA only spot checks 10% of the claims. That is why you see the below links for Fuel Economy Claims lawsuits.Those are EPA numbers, not manufacturer claims, correct?