Diagnostic tool advice for UK model- erase oil change light

Nev said:

It's a European thing. Initially the makers tried to lock-in customers to force them to get servicing done at a dealer.

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We've had our own challenges here with attempts by car makers to maintain monopolies on things. Most of what I've been hearing is allowing aftermarket body panel manufacturers to operate; car makers were insisting that the designs of the panels were proprietary. But they failed in that.

Yet there have been aftermarket car parts for ages, made by a myriad of manufacturers -- for better or worse -- other than OEM. Electrical parts, sensors, etc... For VWs, manufacturers like Meyle, Febi, and Vemo -- not to mention no-name Chinese manufacturers (of course, the former are also mostly made in China) -- have been available for decades. That implies that non-dealer repair shops (or the customers) would be doing the work.

As far as OBD ports, I thought those have also been standardized for decades -- different generations (OBD, OBD2) -- but standardized. Our 1997 VWs had the same OBD2 ports as currently. They had a lot different capabilities, but he ports themselves have ben standardized.

Of cours, I'm 9sort of) aware of the security gateway that Jeep/Fiat install on their vehicles... for better or worse...

Gogsyboy has a 2015 Renegade. You mean this debate in the UK/EU over allowing non-dealers to do even brake jobs has only been settled since then???

So at least early in the Renegade's existence in Europe, that Oil Change Reset information was missing for the Owner's Manuals? And the procedure didn't work?

Simar2 said:

@Marek K The first year I bought the Jeep I did get a reminder show up on the instrument panel
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OK; so different markets, different years, and different onboard systems. My 2121 U.S.-market Trailhawk has the Uconnect 4C NAV system, and I'll see whether and how that's integrated into the oil-change warning.

However, the Owner's Manual does say that "Based on engine operation conditions, the oil change indicator message will illuminate in the instrument cluster. This means that service is required for your vehicle."

That tells me that I'll get a similar message on my instrument panel's mini-display between the tachometer and the speedometer.

Now, do you know whether your message was based on time and mileage; or on a variable interval based on operating conditions (as the Europeans have done for years, but that is quite new for us Yanks)?

So I'll see whether mine says "oil change," or "service," or both at different times -- maybe I'll get a separate reminder that the time- and mileage-based service is due too.

Quite a busy speedometer you guys have. We used to have those on most/all of our cars for decades, since the mid-1970s when we were supposed to go over to the metric system. Made it quite handy when stationed with the military in Europe, and shipping our cars over.

But now we've apparently given up on that. So MPH only for us...


...though the mini-display can be set to display km/h.

Man, you guys must be really confused. Speed in MPH, distance in miles, temperature in Celsius...

Body weight in stone...