G'day Nev.
I see you're location is France.
Then you have 2.0L DIESEL?
Why in FACT does DIESEL suck?
I see you're location is France.
Then you have 2.0L DIESEL?
Why in FACT does DIESEL suck?
Diesel Renegade Trailhawk/Deserthawk
W H Y ? does Europe get the 2.0L turbo diesel engine as standard in the Renegade? The Compass comes with this engine as standard!
The 2.4L Tigershark has its power & torque at high revs. The ZF 9 speed transaxle coupled to this Tigershark wants to change gear at low revs to save fuel. So software flashing will only make this combination more fuel hungry but better to drive.
In contrast the 2.0L turbo diesel has its power & torque at half the revs. A much better match to the ZF transaxle.
So come on FCA make the Europe standard a Special Edition in Australia, South Africa, Canada & USA.
FCA Australia say there is no demand for this.
What do you say?
The 2.4L Tigershark has its power & torque at high revs. The ZF 9 speed transaxle coupled to this Tigershark wants to change gear at low revs to save fuel. So software flashing will only make this combination more fuel hungry but better to drive.
In contrast the 2.0L turbo diesel has its power & torque at half the revs. A much better match to the ZF transaxle.
So come on FCA make the Europe standard a Special Edition in Australia, South Africa, Canada & USA.
FCA Australia say there is no demand for this.
What do you say?
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Sorry Nev, FILTHY?
In a DIESEL FUEL TAX or PARTICULATE EMISSIONS sort of way?
We in Australia just re-elected the Government.
The would be Prime Minister wanted electric vehicles & to scrap DIESELS - he lost.
Does the OIL BURNING 2.4L petrol TigerShark engine SUCK less?
In a DIESEL FUEL TAX or PARTICULATE EMISSIONS sort of way?
We in Australia just re-elected the Government.
The would be Prime Minister wanted electric vehicles & to scrap DIESELS - he lost.
Does the OIL BURNING 2.4L petrol TigerShark engine SUCK less?
I'm sorry to here that Nev,
So that's the old DIESELS?
In France nearly 100% AS 24 Service Stations have AdBlue® at the pump.
I had an employee who came from a farm in the UK (he lived next to the poet Pam Ayres).
He always asked to fill up the truck. It reminded him of home.
As for the STINK, that's why the French invented PERFUME, non! (tongue in check)
(o)(o)
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So that's the old DIESELS?
In France nearly 100% AS 24 Service Stations have AdBlue® at the pump.
I had an employee who came from a farm in the UK (he lived next to the poet Pam Ayres).
He always asked to fill up the truck. It reminded him of home.
As for the STINK, that's why the French invented PERFUME, non! (tongue in check)
(o)(o)
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Thanks Nev,
so no PeePee in the URINE TANK = DIESEL PARTICULATE POLLUTION
PETROL + DIESEL + TAR = CRUSE OIL (roughly)
NO PROFIT from DIESEL = even more expensive PETROL
BUT your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is not in a constant battle with the OIL BURNING 2.4L TigerShark. No sluggish PuttPutt requiring Pedal to the Metal? Followed by ZF thinking about changing to a lower gear? Then a hopefully a CLUNK (gear change) & acceleration resulting in WHIPLASH? I say hopefully because sometimes ZF & TigerShark can not agree, then you STALL!
Your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is MATCHED with your FILTHY 2.0L MultiJet allowing you to drive with no problems (apart from the EXISTING pollution)?
(o)(o)
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so no PeePee in the URINE TANK = DIESEL PARTICULATE POLLUTION
PETROL + DIESEL + TAR = CRUSE OIL (roughly)
NO PROFIT from DIESEL = even more expensive PETROL
BUT your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is not in a constant battle with the OIL BURNING 2.4L TigerShark. No sluggish PuttPutt requiring Pedal to the Metal? Followed by ZF thinking about changing to a lower gear? Then a hopefully a CLUNK (gear change) & acceleration resulting in WHIPLASH? I say hopefully because sometimes ZF & TigerShark can not agree, then you STALL!
Your 9 speed ZF TransAxle is MATCHED with your FILTHY 2.0L MultiJet allowing you to drive with no problems (apart from the EXISTING pollution)?
(o)(o)
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oooopps
PETROL + DIESEL + TAR = CRUDE OIL (roughly)
NO PROFIT from DIESEL = even more expensive PETROL
PETROL + DIESEL + TAR = CRUDE OIL (roughly)
NO PROFIT from DIESEL = even more expensive PETROL
At least you got a manual.
Australia get no choice for the Trailhawk Renegade!
Must have the ZF 9 Speeed Transaxle!
Who at FCA makes the decision which Country gets what?
The Renegade in Australia is being killed off!
The Compass has the 2.0L TURBO DIESEL to MATCH the ZF!
Australians PLEASE let FCA what you want. (even if it's not what I want.)
Come September the new Renegade just might be more popular!
(o)(o)
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Australia get no choice for the Trailhawk Renegade!
Must have the ZF 9 Speeed Transaxle!
Who at FCA makes the decision which Country gets what?
The Renegade in Australia is being killed off!
The Compass has the 2.0L TURBO DIESEL to MATCH the ZF!
Australians PLEASE let FCA what you want. (even if it's not what I want.)
Come September the new Renegade just might be more popular!
(o)(o)
=(_)=
Yes if a PETROL (gas) tank in an accident is ruptured it's more likely to catch on fire & cause death!
It's been widely reported that FCA by 2022 will replace DIESEL with ELECTRIC.
In mid-2015 FCA introduced a 2.2 Multijet DIESEL engine.
This engine meets emission standards without use of Diesel exhaust fluid.
In the USA FCA lost a lot a money cheating DIESEL emissions testing.
So to recover development costs, probably not USA, but other markets should expect this engine?
I believe the Renegade DesertHawk would be a perfect fit!
Other Jeeps could also benefit from this offering.
In mid-2015 FCA introduced a 2.2 Multijet DIESEL engine.
This engine meets emission standards without use of Diesel exhaust fluid.
In the USA FCA lost a lot a money cheating DIESEL emissions testing.
So to recover development costs, probably not USA, but other markets should expect this engine?
I believe the Renegade DesertHawk would be a perfect fit!
Other Jeeps could also benefit from this offering.
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