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WoW.... Mileage like that almost sounds like one of the diesel engines with the stop-start technology.
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Probably is, and 2wd to boot I would guess.
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I would be impressed if it averaged 40 mpg on the highway (real-world driving).
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Must be! Wow, that's still a nice number...
and one you better quickly forget about, were never getting anywhere near that.
Also keep in mind that euro MPG calcs are different. 1 US gallon = .83 Imperial gallons.
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so 42mpg highway? still sounds like diesel.and one you better quickly forget about, were never getting anywhere near that.
Also keep in mind that euro MPG calcs are different. 1 US gallon = .83 Imperial gallons.
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The Renegade should, in my opinion, achieve at least 35 mpg in the 4X4. It can't tow, has very little cargo capacity, and is not roomy. Fuel mileage and affordability should be it's strength, otherwise, the Renegade isn't going to be highly valuable outside from those who are looking for a good capable commuter vehicle. Don't get me wrong, I would like to have a Renegade, but I need to see good mileage, otherwise, I'll buy something a little more practical. This is why the diesel option in the Renegade would be perfect.
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It'll be able to tow something. What do you need to tow?
http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...gade-high-altitude-tow-testing-spy-shots.html
The cargo capacity is fungible depending on passengers. But given the fold down front passenger seat, I expect it'll be pretty flexible for the occasional cargo needs. As for roomy, it's numbers are in line with the kia soul for passengers. I'm 6'7", My wife owns a 2011 soul. It's pretty comfy for tall people, and you can sit a reasonably sized adult in the back seat behind me, or me in the back seat behind a reasonably sized adult.
If you want to play commercial hauling vehicle with it, no it probably isn't the right vehicle. Although I do know some businesses that use souls as their service "trucks", but it mostly house cleaning and electricians. Even the cable installers usually have to draw the line at the transit connect.
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You are correct, it will do some towing. I was meaning that it's not going to tow anything substantial without straining the powertrain/drivetrain or without exceeding the weight/size of trailer. Do we know what the tow rating is? I've heard between 2,000 and 2,500 lbs.
I wouldn't call my Jeep Liberty or Jeep Cherokee roomy, or comfortable for longer trips. I suppose "roomy" is a broad term and used more as an opinion than fact. When I think of "roomy", I think of a full sized pickup truck or larger SUV.
We have a Ram Cummins for heavy towing. The Jeep Liberty is rated for 5,000 lbs., so it can handle the lighter loads, although I would never tow 5,000 lbs. with the Liberty. Our Cherokee tows the utility trailer (firewood, limbs, dirt, rock, etc.).
My main point is that people aren't looking at the Renegade to take care of their towing needs. Most people who will look at the Renegade are wanting something stylish that can achieve good fuel economy. Knowing that the Renegade is a Jeep will encourage people (including myself) to believe that we are buying a capable vehicle for wintery conditions, some off-road recreation, reliability, and perhaps brand loyalty.
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It's not going to be a sofa on wheels. I would also suggest that historically jeep interior ergonomics was the equivalent of the jerk who parks in the middle of four parking spaces because they are special. One of my friends shopped the liberty, and found they had succeeded in making a car that was equally uncomfortable and a poor fit for his 6'2" self and his wife's 5' nothing frame.
I've experienced that myself where there was absolutely no reason for multiple jeeps to not fit me, but for some reason the decided the dash had to be extended to interfere with the knees of anyone over 6' despite there being nothing located int he dash in that area. Crash standards have been beating that out of them slowly but surely though.
As for my perspective, I'm 6'7" roomy means it fits and I can adjust the seat some and putting me in the car doesn't automatically reduce it to a 3 seater, and I can clear the roof while sitll being able to rest my wrists on the steering wheel. Even the Tahoe, which is about the roomiest ride I've found, doesn't permit me to get my knees under the steering wheel, which seems to be the metric short folks go by for a vehicle fitting.
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I would agree. the majority of city folks are looking for a good commuter vehicle to transport themselves to work, grocery store, and run errands. Many city folks do not have the need for towing, hauling, or need anything overly large and roomy. Economy, affordability, and practicality are what they are looking for. The Renegade will meet their needs with style and capability. The Renegade will not work so well for those who have families. For that reason, I believe the larger SUVs and crossovers will be more of an interest for the growing family.
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My guess is that the Renegade might be too small for you.
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It might. But the numbers look a lot like the soul, and the soul fits, it even has a decent amount of headroom to spare. From looking at pictures and video, the big difference between the two might be if me sitting in it turns it from 4 seater to a 3 seater. If it is a no go, it's not the end of the world, I'll look at something else.
Heck, I drove a 97 eclipse GSX for 8 years, I don't mind if a car fits like a glove as long as it is a reasonably comfy glove. My L4 and L5 discs have redefined what comfy is, but as long as it permits fairly upright seating without my legs practically straight out form the hip, I'm mostly ok.
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I'm 6'1" and 168 lbs.; however, I'm all legs. To give you an idea, I wear a 36" inseam. Our '07 Jeep Liberty's seat actually goes back a long way, much further than the '00 Cherokee. The Liberty just isn't comfortable, period! It's perfect for what I we (short trips and the little bit of backcountry exploring that we do). It's also slightly built to get us in and out of the property during the winter months.
Understandable. We'll have to sit in the new Renegade before we can draw too many conclusions. I did make a few conclusions today, though. You can read about my decision process here: http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...ns/3666-mountains-new-mexico-2.html#post32850
At this time, we'll probably hold off to see what the 2017 Wrangler and Grand Wagoneer bring to the table.
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