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i Drove the RENEGADE Diesel... LOVE IT!!!

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My girlfriend has been on the market for a new high efficiency car, and we were evaluating the Nissan Juke amoung other not suv cars, but i have just been in a vacation with her to Italy where my Uncle just purchased a Renegade 2.0l Diesel with 170hp MultiJet.

We used that car a lot to travel around Italy, i drove it myself quite a bit and even my Girlfriend tried it too: WE LOVED IT

It's funny the fact that she didn't even realize it was a Diesel until we actually told her.

She always thought Diesels were noisy and slow, but this is not one of those old school Diesels... This is a MULTIJET Diesel Engine, it revs up just like a Gasoline Motor, in fact she was Driving it and din't realize it was a Diesel.

Then at one point she started getting impressed with the Power, and right then i told her:
"By the way: THIS IS A DIESEL"

She was totally impressed, and i have to say it myself: WOW, this Motor puts down some serious Performance, from 2000rpm all the way up to 4000rpm, it pushes and pushes without a miss, and it catches speed FAST, and now: she is in love, SHE WANT'S IT!

My uncle made a couple of "Italian overtakes" and we were all glued to the seats!

We took several trips in it, and despite the crazy high fuel prices in Italy (converts to $10 a Gallon), we spent very little thanks to the Diesel MultiJet Motor... It really changed my Girlfriend's mind about Diesel Engines and she has put aside the idea of getting the Juke for now.

We did some calculations, and it turned out we were doing 43-45mpg... Now THAT'S HIGH EFFICIENCY and it is what we need for our upcoming family:

A car we can take a trip in without worrying about Gas!

Question is: is there a way we can get it here?

I went the other day to a Jeep dealership to inquire about an automatic one, and other than the fact they still didn't have it here in US they told me that probably the only one we will get in US is a 1.4 liter manual and a 2.4 liter automatic both Gasolines that do about 30mpg Highway... That's not enough for us.

The guybsaid that it's due to the lack of Sales thatbthey don't bring the Diesel, BUT how can it be lack of Sales of here in the US there are not Diesels?
With the exception of PickUps and some humongous SUV that have Big Diesel Motors, on the US Market you can barely find a Diesel Car below 2.0liters that do 40 or even 50+ mpg, and that's instead what we need!

(And would be ridiculous, why only Italy get's the High Efficiency Motor and not America that actually created the Renegade?)

My Girlfriend needs a fuel efficient car that does at least 30mpg combined, she always had SUVs and she wants an SUV still, but here in US all SUVs are gas guzzler and we had to starting looking into other normal cars that offer better mileage, but this Renegade Diesel totally made our hopes up.

America needs a Small SUV thatbdoes more than 40mpg on the Highway, so a new family can easily take a Trip without having to take in account how much Gas the Car will use.


I sure hope the Dealer Dude was wrong and a Diesel Renegade comes here to the US... If they started selling the Renegade 2.0 Diesel MultiJet here in US now, We would order it before the end of the year for sure.

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I wouldn't buy a Renegade with a gasoline engine. I would, however, highly considering buying one with a diesel option. IMO, it would be a mistake if they didn't bring the diesel over here.
Why are you so against a gasoline Renegade? Sure you may prefer the diesel over the gasoline, but what makes you not even consider the gasoline engine at all?

The only reason why I would buy the Renegade is for commuting purposes. I live in mountainous terrain, and gasoline engines do not have the low-end torque to hold the gears. At my elevation and terrain, the gasoline engine would be hunting for gears. And from the estimated fuel economy numbers I've seen, the diesel significantly achieves better fuel economy than it's gasoline counterpart. Something as small as the Renegade is useless to me if it can't average at least 36 - 38 mpg.
Maybe asking customers to pay an additional $4,000 + tax for a diesel is scaring them. To produce and ship them to the US and find out people won't pay the extra.......

There's a lot of people, including myself, who would gladly pay $4K more for a diesel option. As a matter of fact, it's the only way I would consider the Renegade. Think about all the people who pay $8K more for the Cummins Turbo Diesel in the Ram, just because they want the DIESEL!
The only place they have managed to make diesel attractive is in the 1500. It's expensive, and when you look at the packaging, absurdly expensive, in the grand cherokee.

And according to Ram and Jeep, they are exceeding sale expectations for the diesel option in the Ram 1500 and the Grand Cherokee, which tells me that people will pay more for the diesel and the demand is there.
That would totally Crush the Competition... Why don't they bring one here and start an add campaign like:

" Renegade Diesel: 45 or 54mpg ... You make the choice! "

Jeep wouldn't be able to keep the diesel Renegade on the lot, which leads me to believe that is the problem. They probably can't manufacture enough diesel Renegades to launch right away, so they will probably make them available in 2017. It's the same problem for the Ram Ecodiesel. A friend of mine ordered his Ecodiesel back in July and still hasn't received it. The dealers says they can't keep the Ecodiesel on the lot for more than a week, and if one does last more than a week it usually because it's a 2WD and most people want the 4WD. Ram said they are exceeding diesels sales in numbers they didn't think would happen. And yes, most Ecodiesels are being sold in the high-end packages.
They are building the diesel renegade engines in such mass quantity that I don't think the markup will be very high for the diesel option. I would estimate the cost difference (gas vs. diesel) to be somewhere between $2,500 and $3,500 IF they make it to the USA market.

As I've said before, there's a sizeable market who want diesel. The Ram Cummins, Ram Ecodiesel, and Jeep Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel are exceeding sale projections to the point that other auto manufacturers are scrambling to compete. For those who can't afford the Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel, the diesel Renegade would be their opportunity to seize the moment.
The Jeep Dealerships that I have talked to have said that the Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel is selling as fast as they get them in. The smaller dealerships, especially those in lower economic depressed areas, have not received any Ecodiesels or have only gotten one or two in.

The Grand Cherokee is obviously doing well. Here are a few NEW interesting facts:

“Sales of the Jeep brand – the fastest-growing brand in the industry – were up 52 percent, the brand's best sales performance ever in the month of October. The Jeep brand's 52 percent increase was the largest percentage sales gain of any Chrysler Group brand for the month and its 13th-consecutive month of year-over-year sales gains. The Jeep brand has set a sales record in each month this year, including its all-time sales record in May. The Jeep Cherokee, Wrangler and Patriot each logged their best ever October sales. The all-new Cherokee was the brand's highest-volume seller for the second-consecutive month. Sales of the flagship Jeep Grand Cherokee were up 5 percent, its best October sales since 2003.

The Jeep brand won all five categories entered, including the coveted "SUV of Texas," in the 2014 Texas Auto Writers Association (TAWA) Texas Truck Rodeo last month. The Grand Cherokee took home the "SUV of Texas" award for the fifth-consecutive year, as well as "Mid-Size SUV of Texas." The Grand Cherokee Summit was named "Luxury Mid-Size SUV of Texas." The Wrangler earned "Off-Road Utility Vehicle of Texas" while Cherokee was named "Compact SUV of Texas." The 3.0-liter EcoDiesel in the Grand Cherokee and Ram 1500 won "Best Powertrain" in the competition.”

October sales:
4,301 Jeep Compass
6,524 Jeep Patriot
13,665 Jeep Wrangler
14,993 Jeep Grand Cherokee
15,715 Jeep Cherokee

I read somewhere that Chrysler said that the ecodiesel in the Grand Cherokee and Ram have exceeded sale projections and therefore are having difficulty keeping up with dealer enquiries and customer orders.

Author: Manley said bringing a diesel-powered Cherokee, which it now sells in Europe, to the United States is more complicated than was the decision to test the diesel waters with Grand Cherokee.

Mike Manley: “Cherokee is slightly different because of its weight and size. You never can tell, really. We’ve obviously invested in diesel for Europe. I never rule anything out with diesel for the Jeep brand,”

It seems to me that the diesel option in the Cherokee wasn’t a great fit because of the weight and size of vehicle. From what I gathered, there wasn’t a suitable engine for that application to make the diesel a worthwhile investment in the USA.
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