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What is everyone else considering if they do not purchase a renegade for whatever reason. Price, comfort, size, quality. I am considering a Subaru Crosstrek if I do not fall in love with the renegade. I am also only interested in the TH edition so an over priced renegade for the TH is a concern for me.
 

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I had the Crosstrek on my list as well until my friend traded his in after less than a year because of how underpowered it is. A shame, really. Now I'm down to:

2015 Renegade

2015 Golf Sportwagen


2016 Mazda2


2015 Mazda3

In that order. All with a stick.
 

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What is everyone else considering if they do not purchase a renegade for whatever reason. Price, comfort, size, quality. I am considering a Subaru Crosstrek if I do not fall in love with the renegade. I am also only interested in the TH edition so an over priced renegade for the TH is a concern for me.
My first choice is the TH just like yourself. My second choice (so far) is the Mitsubishi RVR GT 4WD (in Canada) or the Outlander Sport same car, only US name ;). I feel it is a little over priced though despite the great warranty.

My 3rd choice the Honda HR-V, love the magic seat, but don't know much about their AWD system, the RVR has a great system, that may be the deal breaker for me.

I'd like the sun roof which the RVR doesn't have it's got a non retractable moon roof. The HR-V not sure if it does, that too is not out on the market here yet.
 

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I really tried to like the Subaru Crosstrek and I do from the outside but, once inside, the interior is poorly designed. I test drove the Crosstrek after other cars and it just made the Crosstrek feel cheap.

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Subaru XV Crosstrek Hybrid
It solves the low powered engine issue because of the extra torque down low, it also has added NVH (noise vibration harshness) damping so it's more quiet down the road.
Not enough extra MPGs to justify the extra $$. It would only make sense if you are buying it for other reasons as you stated, but a "mild" Hybrid like this makes no sense. I know it's Subaru's first Hybrid but they have to get the MPGs higher, at LEAST low to mid 40s MPGs.
 

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I really tried to like the Subaru Crosstrek and I do from the outside but, once inside, the interior is poorly designed. I test drove the Crosstrek after other cars and it just made the Crosstrek feel cheap.

Scott
If the renegade dissapoints, try the crosstek again. The regular model is supposed to be getting the improved interior of the hybrid.
 

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My choices sound weird but here they are:

- Renegade Trailhawk (purchase)
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- Subaru Outback 2015 Premium with Technology (4 year Lease option)

As I am waiting for my wife to decide if she will get back to work full time or as a freelance, the Renegade Trailhawk will have to compete with the other extreme, the Subaru Outback 2015 Premium with tech...

I know it is weird but if my wife will have to work as a freelancer for the upcoming few years and spends time on the road during harsh Quebec winter, then I will consider a purchase that is proven to be safer, more reliable and efficient, spacious enough yet not gaz thursty, for a longer term. And with an outdoors / mild off road capability... For that, the new Outback 2015 I already test drove is just perfect as a value / quality / price...

Also, and again, I love the look of the Renegade Trailhawk, and for now, it would fit perfectly my needs but the jeep reliability is scaring me when it comes to invest again in a 5 years purchase term as I did with my Patriot 2010 (bought new back in 2010) and not knowing if I can keep the Renegade for longer than its financing term, without having to visit the garage regulary when it starts to age a little... Also Safety is worrying me for this vehicle...

My Patriot 2010 now does not sound too solid and my extended warranty will expire in the upcoming year I suppose. It is simply not worth being kept for a longer time...And I am just afraid the Renegade will have the same fate (ages badly and fast)

Also if the Renegade Trailhawk price package will be above 30.000CA$, I would ask myslef questions if such vehicle vs reliability vs value is worth it compared to the other choice...

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My choices sound weird but here they are:

- Renegade Trailhawk (purchase)
or
- Subaru Outback 2015 Premium with Technology (4 year Lease option)

As I am waiting for my wife to decide if she will get back to work full time or as a freelance, the Renegade Trailhawk will have to compete with the other extreme, the Subaru Outback 2015 Premium with tech...

I know it is weird but if my wife will have to work as a freelancer for the upcoming few years and spends time on the road during harsh Quebec winter, then I will consider a purchase that is proven to be safer, more reliable and efficient, spacious enough yet not gaz thursty, for a longer term. And with an outdoors / mild off road capability... For that, the new Outback 2015 I already test drove is just perfect as a value / quality / price...

Also, and again, I love the look of the Renegade Trailhawk, and for now, it would fit perfectly my needs but the jeep reliability is scaring me when it comes to invest again in a 5 years purchase term as I did with my Patriot 2010 (bought new back in 2010) and not knowing if I can keep the Renegade for longer than its financing term, without having to visit the garage regulary when it starts to age a little... Also Safety is worrying me for this vehicle...

My Patriot 2010 now does not sound too solid and my extended warranty will expire in the upcoming year I suppose. It is simply not worth being kept for a longer time...And I am just afraid the Renegade will have the same fate (ages badly and fast)

Also if the Renegade Trailhawk price package will be above 30.000CA$, I would ask myslef questions if such vehicle vs reliability vs value is worth it compared to the other choice...

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And my choice of the competition looks like this :)

 

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Not a bad choice of a Subaru.

Have you seen the new XV?
XV is cool and capable but in terms of value vs money, for a Subaru, does not seem worth it... Yet I keep thinking about it as a higher Imprezza and I don't think it is what I need... Same for the Forester, seems that you do not get the right package for the price you pay and that is slightly below Outback, same trim / equipment...

I thought that the new Outback 2015, although radically different in size and style compared to the Renegade, has it all for the price.
 

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I'm hoping the Land Rover Discovery sport is priced out of my range or it's going to be hard to ignore. I've owned and driven Chrysler vehicles for the past fourteen years and was hoping the Renegade would help re-build confidence/desirability in the brand but In the UK pricing will be the key. In 1993 when jeep cherokee was introduced to the Uk market it was a value for money revelation and touted as a cut price Range Rover rival. How times change. Since then the models have been overpriced, too thirsty or under par on quality and tech and Renegade will struggle to reverse that perception if the price is not competitive against lesser cars than Land Rover models. Either that or it will have to be outstanding in every aspect to sway buyers away from the premium brands. I'm hoping it's fantastic and great value.
 

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My short list is pretty short. As in nothing.

I love cars and driving them, but these days I don't really get ot do that, and it's not worth the insurance and gas costs for what usually floats my boat (awd turbo charged 4 cylinder cars that handle decently). So I want something with a decent steroe that lets me enjoy my music collection and has enough sidewall to the tires and suspension travel to help make the amalgamation of patch that is referred to laughingly as "road" in these parts less damaging.

I liked the soul, but my wife got one, and owning two seems odd. Plus they redesigned and although the interiors seems better made, I find it exceptionally ugly and don't know if I would like staring at that during the commute.

The mazda CX-5 is on it.

That's about it without going into the used market or going out of my price range that arent encumbered by a lot of "but I don't really like....."

Nissan xterra is neat and priced right, gas milage is awful though.
crosstek is kind of cheap feeling and has all the maintenance downsides of my current subaru except timing belt replacement.
forrester is similar.

Honda CR-V technically should be on the list, but I dislike everything about it.
 

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I really tried to like the Subaru Crosstrek and I do from the outside but, once inside, the interior is poorly designed. I test drove the Crosstrek after other cars and it just made the Crosstrek feel cheap.

Scott
This has been what I heard about the Crosstrek. I really like the the rugged look it has, size, MPG, and price point, but I heard it is cheaply made and not powerful. I have not driven one but in the photos I've seen the interior does seem terribly designed. The Renegade Trailhawk is my first choice, but I am a little disappointed with the Spring 2015 release rather than January release. The Cherokee TrailHawk is a nice vehicle, but breaking into the 32k might be a bit to high of a price for me. The Renegade TrailHawk pricing hopefully the 4-6K lower than Cherokee makes a difference for me.
 

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The Renegade is first on my list, but pricing will factor heavily, as it would for any other vehicle in that class that I like.

I really like the idea of the Elio. My commute is just me, and for the numbers it is ridiculous for me not to consider it. $6800 and 68mpg combined. It has a roll cage and Lear designed the cockpit. I'm not a motorcycle person, so this seems safer.

I tried to upload a small picture, but it's not working, so link below.

http://www.eliomotors.com/
 

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My short list is pretty short. As in nothing.

I love cars and driving them, but these days I don't really get ot do that, and it's not worth the insurance and gas costs for what usually floats my boat (awd turbo charged 4 cylinder cars that handle decently). So I want something with a decent steroe that lets me enjoy my music collection and has enough sidewall to the tires and suspension travel to help make the amalgamation of patch that is referred to laughingly as "road" in these parts less damaging.

I liked the soul, but my wife got one, and owning two seems odd. Plus they redesigned and although the interiors seems better made, I find it exceptionally ugly and don't know if I would like staring at that during the commute.

The mazda CX-5 is on it.

That's about it without going into the used market or going out of my price range that arent encumbered by a lot of "but I don't really like....."

Nissan xterra is neat and priced right, gas milage is awful though.
crosstek is kind of cheap feeling and has all the maintenance downsides of my current subaru except timing belt replacement.
forrester is similar.

Honda CR-V technically should be on the list, but I dislike everything about it.

I own a Mazda CX-5. Got it last October, I love it. 13k miles, it had 2 when we bought it. Not one issue. Test drove a Mazda 6, strongly considered it over my current Dart. The Dart being 7k cheaper sealed the deal.

Scott
 
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