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While having no concrete information I thought we could have a little fun with numbers and start trying to figure out just where exactly the entry level renegade is going to be positioned in the market.

For one, Jeep Patriot starts at $15,995 USD. Jeep advertises the Patriot as Americas Best Priced SUV on their website, its unlikely Jeep wants to give up that bit of marketing glory so I don't expect Renegade to stray too far from that.

However, the Renegade kind of gets two birds stoned at once, replacing the Compass and Patriot. Compass is priced at $18,595 USD. So I suppose if you took the average of Patriot and Compass US pricing it would be a fair place to start assuming Renegade will come in. How does $17,292 USD sound?
 

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That's about where I think it will fall.

My guess 17 to 18k base to 28-30k Trailhawk loaded.

I think this is the sweet spot for the model to be successful.

For one, Jeep Patriot starts at $15,995 USD. Jeep advertises the Patriot as Americas Best Priced SUV on their website, its unlikely Jeep wants to give up that bit of marketing glory so I don't expect Renegade to stray too far from that.
Since the Patriot is being discontinued, why not have the Renegade take its spot as the 'Best Priced SUV'?

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Good point. Yes, the US is only getting 4x4 versions.

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of what, Renegade? Are you sure...

Renegade will be available in the U.S. with one of two engines: a 1.4-liter turbo four, shared with the Fiat Abarth, that makes 160 hp, or 2.4-liter I-4 generating 184 hp. The turbo mates only to a six-speed manual, the 2.4 to a segment-exclusive nine-speed automatic. Each drivetrain is available with front- or four-wheel drive.
http://www.stltoday.com/classifieds...cle_94f6b738-d0c2-5916-834e-ef5ee06217b9.html

I don't know if Jeep really wants to miss that piece of the market.
 

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The only drive wheel drive version that I've read about is with a small diesel engine (1.6l, I believe) and since the US is not getting diesel engines versions of the Renegade, well....

Remember though, there is a lot of conflicting info plus, facts seem to be changing/updating daily like the fact that the US was getting a diesel version.

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Depending on how aggressive Jeep wants to be 16.9k to 25.5k.

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Yea thats more than likely the range, especially when you consider that the Trailhawk Cherokee clocks in at $29,495 and Limited $29,995. $25K is a good top end because there is minimal overlap with cherokee, will it will eclipse the sport at $24.9K but for the kit you'll receive in TH or Limited, it would be a downgrade to Cherokee Sport...
 

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According to this article, 4WD-system is standard equipment...

From Autoguide.com:

Fast Facts
1. A new nameplate, the Renegade is Jeeps new compact entry in its lineup, replacing the Compass and the Patriot.
2. A 1.4-liter turbocharged four cylinder engine and a naturally aspirated 2.4-liter four-cylinder will be available in the small crossover.
3. Four-wheel drive setup is standard equipment, while a nine-speed automatic transmission and ‘Active Drive Low’ 4WD-system will be available.
4. A Trailhawk trim level will be available for off-road adventurers which features slightly more ground clearance for rock-crawling.
5. For enhanced fuel economy, the Jeep Renegade will feature a disconnecting rear-axle and a power take-off unit.
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So the 4wd won't be like the Patriot? Mines in FWD until it detects slippage then sends torque to the rear wheels automatically, or you lock it in 4wd with a switch. The way I'm reading it the Renegade is either in FWD or its in 4wd, no all wheel drive? They have not posted the explanation on Jeep.com under Capability/4wd systems yet. I'm curious as to its operation.
 

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So the 4wd won't be like the Patriot? Mines in FWD until it detects slippage then sends torque to the rear wheels automatically, or you lock it in 4wd with a switch. The way I'm reading it the Renegade is either in FWD or its in 4wd, no all wheel drive? They have not posted the explanation on Jeep.com under Capability/4wd systems yet. I'm curious as to its operation.
Jeepriot,

How you described it sounds exactly how Jeep has described it.

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Jeepriot,

How you described it sounds exactly how Jeep has described it.

Scott
Thanks Scott,
I'm old school 4x4 where you have 2 shift levers, one for the transmission and one for the 2 speed transfer case, both with mechanical linkage. This AWD automatic, electronic push button, dial and drive stuff kinda makes you wonder whats going to happen when your knee deep in a bog of **** and you decide you should have it in 4wd!
I did own a commander that was not trail rated but was awd, it was the best snow, ice covered highway machine I've ever had, it just did its thing and did it well when the going got rough. Patriot is kind of the same but much lighter which can be a problem, kind of why I'm curious about the renegade since it is slightly smaller.
Any body seen a curb weight for the Renegade?
 

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Jeepriot,

I haven't seen a curb weight of the Renegade but, the 2014 Fiat 500L's curb weight is 3,203. With the 500L, 500X and the Renegade sharing a platform, I assume they will be close in weight.

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Jeepriot,

I haven't seen a curb weight of the Renegade but, the 2014 Fiat 500L's curb weight is 3,203. With the 500L, 500X and the Renegade sharing a platform, I assume they will be close in weight.

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That would put it real close to the same weight as the Patriot. Are either of the Faits you noted awd/4wd if not that will add weight.

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The 500X is either AWD or 4x4. Don't know much about it

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the 500X is going to be identical to the Renegade in just about every way. Its not likely the FIAT gets the beefier Trailhawk system, or even a Jeep system at all. FIAT does have a semi competent AWD setup in the Panda 4x4 so its likely they go that route to give the jeep some exclusivity...
 
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Pricing for Renegade in Holland announced Benzine
Jeep Renegade 1.6 E-Torq, 110 pk, FWD - € 22.990,- (2015)
1.4 MultiAir, 140 pk, FWD - € 24.990,-
1.4 MultiAir TCT, 140 pk, FWD - (n.n.b. 2015)
1.4 MultiAir AT9, 170 pk, AWD - (n.n.b. 2015)
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Diesel
1.6 MultiJet, 120 pk, FWD - € 27.490,-
2.0 MultiJet, 140 pk, AWD - € 36.190,-
2.0 MultiJet AT9, 140 pk, 4WD - € 41.190,-
2.0 MultiJet AT9, 170 pk, 4WD Trailhawk - € 42.790,-
That is about the same price as Nissan Juke for base model. It will go on sale in Europe in November
 

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Jeep is sitting on the price release a little too long. The local dealer says they expect a Dec2014 release, but they have no prices.

Not too clever.

I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the wait, hard to do when there's no price info.
 
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