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I was considering doing this with Red LED's to preserve night vision. Anyone have any thoughts?
If operated while driving, and visible from outside the vehicle, it can be trouble. Most states have regs requiring visible front lighting to be dot/nhtsa white or Amber. Anything else could get you towed in a stop. Some states have harsh penalties for red lights up front on non-emergency vehicles.
 

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Thinking of doing the same but haven't tried to remove lights yet so not sure how difficult to do.
The dome light in the center and the ones in the back come off easy with a little pry of a knife or flat tip screwdriver but the map lights up front are the stubborn ones. I felt like I was gonna snap the plastic
 

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If operated while driving, and visible from outside the vehicle, it can be trouble. Most states have regs requiring visible front lighting to be dot/nhtsa white or Amber. Anything else could get you towed in a stop. Some states have harsh penalties for red lights up front on non-emergency vehicles.
Okay, so I entirely forgot the common sense factor. I appreciate the reminder...

I don't know what I was thinking.

So I did a little research. I wanted to know if it was possible to maintain night vision while looking at a map, looking for dropped items, etc...

"that is capable of displaying if affixed or attached to the vehicle"

This is the law as it applies to me in Colorado. I am not an attorney, I do not dispense legal advice. My opinion on what I read is, "use a flashlight with a red lens." That is what I may do. As always YMMV.
 

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The dome light in the center and the ones in the back come off easy with a little pry of a knife or flat tip screwdriver but the map lights up front are the stubborn ones. I felt like I was gonna snap the plastic
mind enlightening me on where you pryed to remove the covers? i want to do the same but its im worried about breaking the plastic on a lease.
 

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In the owners manual, it has you pull the entire housing off. The clear lens can't be removed from the side visible to you without screwing up things pretty good (I somewhat learned this the hard way). Its pretty hard to pry and pull the thing off too. Really doesn't make sense why they did it that way.
 

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Okay, so I entirely forgot the common sense factor. I appreciate the reminder...

I don't know what I was thinking.

So I did a little research. I wanted to know if it was possible to maintain night vision while looking at a map, looking for dropped items, etc...

"that is capable of displaying if affixed or attached to the vehicle"

This is the law as it applies to me in Colorado. I am not an attorney, I do not dispense legal advice. My opinion on what I read is, "use a flashlight with a red lens." That is what I may do. As always YMMV.
Unless you are running down the round blasting out red light to the front you should be fine.

It is not illegal to run red lights on your interior while pulled over on the side of the road.

It's illegal to operate the vehicle on a public roadway with red light to the front while moving.

In Georgia, the biggie is no blue lights, period. You cannot have blue lights installed on your vehicle that are CAPABLE of flashing (aka - they have a switch or automatically flash).

Same thing with white light to the rear in normal operation. You can't display white light to the rear for obvious reasons. This is why people get tickets for cracked taillight lenses.

I have seen plenty of vehicles (including cop cars) with red interior dome lights.

Follow life rule #1 - Don't be stupid. Flying down the highway at 15 over with red light coming out the windshield is a good way to get pulled over.

You'll be fine :)
 

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Ugh - OK - I replaced my map lights with LEDs - really tough. I broke a plastic tab or two. I could not find a way to take down the entire unit - I was afraid of pulling down the headliner - the next plastic item in would not come down easily either. Has anyone taken the map light/upper console apart without breaking anything PLEASE post some instructions or tips if you have done this or figured out how it comes apart and goes back together without breaking anything!

Also, now that I have LEDs in the map lights - they are always ON - very dim... but always on - same for the rear seat dome light - it is always on very dim... anyone else notice this with LED lights?

Thanks for any info,
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Hi Pat,
I did all the lights some time ago (have a look into my garage) but didn't take pics along the way .... anyhow, the dome/map light assembly comes down pretty easily when pulling on the rear corners down - use a pry tool first so you get a little gap that allows you to grab in with the fingers .... disconnect the plugs and take the whole assembly to your work desk - vieing it upside down the lamps are housed under the black plastic cover (as you already know) - to take that of securely take a flathead srewdriver and gently disengage where you see the little noses. Also have a look at the appendix of the user manual - that for some reason is only available online (I do have the german version only, so doesn't make sense to post that here).


Regarding the "rest light" you see, there is a problem with your leds that obviously have not the correct resistor built in (I bought mine here www.hypercolor.de ). They should then be off completely after 20-30min, when the "remainig current" has dropped to Zero. So check that. Otherwise I'd go for other leds.


As for the vanity mirror lights - as this has been asked in this thread as well - here also the whole assembly has to be taken out - pry from the right hand side - hold the gap with your finger and then pry gently around the bottom corner all the way to the left side and the mirror will come out - flip it and take off the inner plastic (again with a srewdriver) - see the pic for what it looks like. Now you can take out the bulb ...... hope this helps a Little.
 

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Regarding preserving night vision - Green or blue-green lights are used as much or more than red. One problem with using intense red light is that everything printed on the map in red disappears. Another trick if you have to turn on a white light or are facing bright headlights is to close one eye.

I fly a 1946 Champ that lacks interior lighting. I bought a little battery powered unit containing 4 green LEDS that clips onto the brim of my baseball hat. It turns on and off by the push of a button and works good since it points the light wherever I'm looking.

Tim
 

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What bulb is the vanity mirror light? The one I have I can access from behind the clear lens. It is a tiny wedge filament bulb much smaller than the typical 194 but larger than instrument cluster bulbs.

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for dome light switchover is to wear latex gloves or wash your hands very well otherwise you will stain your headliner. You pull down from rear and the two sides and it will unsnap from the mount tabs.

Also how the heck do you replace or rather re insert the glove box bulb? Holy cow they must have built that unit around the bulb!

I wonder why when they make bulb housings they don't put a reflective backing behind the bulb like a reflector, simple silver paint would help tremendously. I painted my Suzuki samurai rear light clusters behind the bulbs and it really brightens them up.
 

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Ha ha I think I figured out the glove box. It was dark when I fumbled around with it, in the light of day I see the screws holding the box and frame in place, I will try removing those to get to that bulb.
 

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Easy glove box bulb change

You can get bulb out without complete taking box out by pulling out bulb. Imposable to get back in. I removed the bulb holder socket carefully pry the black plastic and it comes out for easy bulb replacement and pop it back in.
 

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thanks for that awesome tip!
yeah i reached in there felt the tabs on either side and pried it away.
much easier.

any thoughts as to what the vanity mirror bulbs are? they are tiny, just wondered if anyone swapped them out with leds for the heck of it. i probably wont bother as i dont use those mirrors.
 

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Just swapped out the dome/map lights with led bulbs. Thought I'd share how I did it. First I popped out the clips facing the rear of the car. Then the two in the middle. Everything else should be self explanatory with the following photos. Hope this helps.
 

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Just swapped out the dome/map lights with led bulbs. Thought I'd share how I did it. First I popped out the clips facing the rear of the car. Then the two in the middle. Everything else should be self explanatory with the following photos. Hope this helps.
Thanks!

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