[mmsharky]

Hey y’all, have had my renegade since June. Only have about 3k miles so far and was curious to what others with the same engine do for oil changes. I know the oil monitor doesn’t tell us it’s “life” and Jeep recommends at most 10k miles or 1 year. That seems a little extensive for the city driving and cold and winter I’ll be having. I’m thinking around every 5k miles, what does everyone think? Thanks!

 

[dmnjr]

I have been doing 7500. My driving is mostly freeway at 75 or back roads at 60. If I did more in town I would drop it to 5000.

 

[Marek K]

was curious to what others with the same engine do for oil changes. I know the oil monitor doesn’t tell us it’s “life” and Jeep recommends at most 10k miles or 1 year.

I've got a 2021 Trailhawk with the 1.3T engine.

According to the Owner's Manual, the oil change indicator shows “Oil Change Due” when it calculates it's due, based on how the engine has been run. Flexible oil changes have been common with European vehicles for over a decade now.

And yes, not to exceed 1 year or 10,000 miles.

Now that we're retired, I do way less than 10,000 miles per year -- more like 4,000 or so. So the one-year point is when I'll probably be doing my changes.

That having been said, a maximum of 10,000 miles isn't horribly out of line for modern oils and engines. That's what VW recommended back in 2009 for both of our VWs.

On the third hand, with a turbo, I'd say doing it every 5,000 miles may be advisable. That's what I was doing with my turbo VW, back when I was driving more...

Just make sure you can reset the indicator...

 

[shells2skis]

I change it every 5,000 miles, city and highway driving.

 

[semperfiny]

5,000 is when I do mine. Only had to do 2 since I bought it new in 2021. Haven't been driving it much this year since I'm outta work for medical issue.

 

[luckydog]

I did my one at 2,000, the second at 6,000. Now it's every 6,000 miles. I use Pennzoil Platinum 5w30. It was the only Pennzoil one that meets the Chrysler MS-13340 spec called for in the manual. I was surprised their Ultra Platinum that I use in my Hemis doesn't.

 

[Marek K]

I use Pennzoil Platinum 5w30. It was the only Pennzoil one that meets the Chrysler MS-13340 spec called for in the manual.

Like I said, I've got a 2021 with the 1.3T engine.

How do you know the Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 meets the MS-13340 spec?

Last I did the research was about a year ago, and I kept seeing references saying that Pennzoil Platinum -- of some sort -- meets the spec. But I couldn't find anything definitive, and I didn't see that listed on the bottles.

The dealer is still doing oil changes for me under the three-year service warranty. I make sure they don't use the bulk oil they've got normally, but get bottles of the MS-13340 from the part department. And I've got a bottle of Mopar MS-13340 on the garage shelf just in case.

But it sure would be nice if there were an aftermarket equivalent...

As to why, there's always going to be lots of debate -- some saying that manufacturer oil specs don't mean squat.

Not being a chemist or expert on oil, I'm just careful to stick with the spec oil.

I'd think it would be particularly important on European- vs. American-made engines, like with coolant. They tend to be designed quite differently, using different metallurgy and maybe tolerances.

 

[georgef]

How do you know the Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30 meets the MS-13340 spec?

Last I did the research was about a year ago, and I kept seeing references saying that Pennzoil Platinum -- of some sort -- meets the spec. But I couldn't find anything definitive, and I didn't see that listed on the bottles.

I can also find references to the MS-13340 associated with Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30, I can even find images of bottles with that specification listed (see image below), but I cannot find any reference to MS-13340 on the Pennzoil specification sheet, or their website.

 

[Marek K]

I can also find references to the MS-13340 associated with Pennzoil Platinum 5W-30, I can even find images of bottles with that specification listed (see image below), but I cannot find any reference to MS-13340 on the Pennzoil specification sheet, or their website.

Well, you're a step ahead of me. I wasn't able to find any images of the back of the bottle showing that specification a year ago. Nor on the Pennzoil spec sheet or their web site.

If it's on the bottle now, I'd suspect it's true -- everything just hasn't caught up yet...

 

[luckydog]

I didn't find it on their website so I emailed Pennzoil, specifically asking about a 0W-30 that meets MS-13340. Their response was that they did not have a 0W-30 but that the Platinum 5W-30 did meet the spec. They also stated the containers were updated but the website wasn't yet. Since I already use Pennzoil in my hemis, I didn't bother checking other oil brands. I've also been using the Mopar filters, especially since I haven't found any other brand. My normal filter brand is Wix.

 

[Marek K]

I've also been using the Mopar filters, especially since I haven't found any other brand.

Yup. Filter is another thing that's been slow in catching up, aftermarket-wise, for these 1.3T's.

If they ever show up aftermarket, I'll probably stick with European brands like Mann or Hengst for this European engine... I'm not familiar with Wix...

 

[Allybaba3]

I know this is an old post... Has anyone heard of an oil specification change on the 2021 Jeep Renegade Limited 1.3L from the 0W30 AN+ to 0W20? Just took our renegade into the dealership for the oil change under the Jeep Wave plan and they put in 0W20 oil. I questioned the service writer and he said that jeep had relaxed the specs and this was okay. Everything I've read specifies the MS-11340, even the oil cap references 0W30.

 

[luckydog]

I haven't heard of that. It sounds hard to believe in a turbo engine. I'd want to see it in writing.

 

[Marek K]

I know this is an old post... Has anyone heard of an oil specification change on the 2021 Jeep Renegade Limited 1.3L from the 0W30 AN+ to 0W20?

Welcome!

I've got a 2021 Trailhawk with the 1.3T (not L) engine. No, I haven't heard of any change either in oil recommendation -- it should still be MS-13340 (not MS-11340) specification, which is 0W-30:

As of a year ago, that engine was the only one probably in the U.S. that took that specification. As of that time, my dealer had to get individual bottles of it from the parts department; they didn't have it in bulk.

So your dealer may have cheated a bit. Note that MS-6395, which Jeep recommends for the 2.4L engine, is 5W-20.

Turbos do run hot; but I doubt the 0W-20 will hurt your engine if it's in for a short time, particularly now in winter. But I'd definitely go back and, as luckydog wrote, ask to see the change in writing...

Let us know!

 

[Allybaba3]

I did get a reply from FCA and even though they did address just one of my concerns, sort of... they did say that sometimes Stellantis releases internal documents available only to the dealerships on updated recommendations for the type.(Not sure what is really meant by the the type). He did confirm the 0W-20 is listed as recommended for all temperatures. Tempertureis one thing but longevity and shearing is another.
I felt the response was an answer/not answer, pretty non committal. Probably won't be taking the Rene back for anything other than warranty work. Will be getting an oil change before our next road trip.

 

[luckydog]

I agree that sounds like a (non)answer. By the way, my manual recommends using Mopar or Pennzoil synthetic oil, 0W30, that meets MS-13340. When I didn't see it on Pennzoil's website, I emailed them. They said the only oil they offered meeting MS-13340 was their Platinum 5W30. I was surprised none of their Ultra-Platinum oils were certified for MS-13340 since Pennzoil and FCA have had a close relationship for quite a while. Still, I'm comfortable with their 5W30.

 

[Marek K]

He did confirm the 0W-20 is listed as recommended for all temperatures.

Well, I'm seeing in my Owner's Manual that Jeep recommends 0W-20 (MS-6395 specification), but for the current 2.4L engine. Maybe that's what FCA was referring to...?

By the way, my manual recommends using Mopar or Pennzoil synthetic oil, 0W30, that meets MS-13340. When I didn't see it on Pennzoil's website, I emailed them. They said the only oil they offered meeting MS-13340 was their Platinum 5W30.

Yeah, I saw the Pennzoil (and Shell Helix) recommendations in my 2021 Owner's Manual, as other MS-13340 oils for the 1.3T engine.

I looked for specific references that Pennzoil and/or Shell meet MS-13340; like a web site reference, or a bottle label. No luck as of two years ago. Before I use anything other than Mopar MS-13340, I'd like to see something in writing...

 

[Allybaba3]

I purchased 2 Mopar 68439517AA for use while under warranty. I pretty much use Fram as my go to normally. I couldn't find the Mopar MS-13340 in stock on line several months ago so I ended up buying Triax 0W-30 Synergy SRT which doesn't include the Jeep MS-13340 but is an SN Plus API certified fully synthetic oil designated for turbos.

 

[Marek K]

I couldn't find the Mopar MS-13340 in stock on line several months ago

The only place I found it was at the dealer's part department. Not unreasonable, cost-wise.

Since I've got three free dealer oil changes, I bought just one 1-qt bottle at the very beginning so I'd be able to top-off. Haven't had to touch it yet...

 

[luckydog]

Well, I'm seeing in my Owner's Manual that Jeep recommends 0W-20 (MS-6395 specification), but for the current 2.4L engine. Maybe that's what FCA was referring to...?



Yeah, I saw the Pennzoil (and Shell Helix) recommendations in my 2021 Owner's Manual, as other MS-13340 oils for the 1.3T engine.

I looked for specific references that Pennzoil and/or Shell meet MS-13340; like a web site reference, or a bottle label. No luck as of two years ago. Before I use anything other than Mopar MS-13340, I'd like to see something in writing...

Look on the label of Pennzoil Platinum 5W30. It states it meets the MS-13340 standard.