Oil Type & Change Intervals

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impelus

Discussion Starter · Apr 29, 2015

According the Owners Manual, it specifies the type of oil to use; however, it does not really go into enough detail, for me at least, which is why I wanted to post for advice.

Engine Oil With Filter
1.4L Turbo Engine (SAE 5W-40 Synthetic, API Certified) - 4.0 Quarts
"We recommend you use SAE 5W-40 API Certified Synthetic Engine Oil,
meeting the requirements of FCA US Material Standard MS-12991 such as
MOPAR, Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for
correct SAE grade."

2.4L Engine (SAE 0W-20, API Certified) - 5.5 Quarts
"We recommend you use SAE 0W-20 API Certified Engine Oil, meeting the
requirements of FCA US Material Standard MS-6395 such as MOPAR,
Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE
grade."

Maintenance Schedule
"Your vehicle is equipped with an automatic oil change indicator system. The oil change indicator system will remind you that it is time to take your vehicle in for scheduled maintenance.

Based on engine operation conditions, the oil change indicator message will illuminate in the instrument cluster. This means that service is required for your vehicle. Operating conditions such as frequent short-trips, trailer
tow and extremely hot or cold ambient temperatures will influence when the “Change Oil” or “Oil Change Required” message is displayed. Severe Operating Conditions can cause the change oil message to illuminate as
early as 3,500 miles (5,600 km) since last reset. Have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible, within the next 500 miles (805 km)."

NOTE: Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or one year, whichever
comes first.

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impelus

Discussion Starter · #2 · Apr 29, 2015

Vehicle: 2015 Renegade 4x2 Lattitude 2.4L

Background: The dealer originally sold me the "MOPAR PREMIUM CARE - 5 YEAR" service plan which allowed for 15 oil changes (3 times per year). I went back to the dealer after realizing how much they overcharged me for this plan and also to ask some additional questions. When I went back, they said they had made a mistake and upgraded me to the "MOPAR SYNTHETIC PREMIUM CARE - 5 YEAR / 10 SERVICES" which is for Synthetic Oil and allows for 10 changes in 5 years, so twice a year.

Question: According to the owners manual, it does not specify "synthetic" like it does, but as I attempt to lookup the brands they suggest, it looks like synthetic is all that comes. Does my vehicle only take synthetic? Is changing 2 times per year good? Based on my last vehicle, I only drive roughly 12k miles per year so twice a year would be ~6,000 miles, which seems fine with what the owners manual says.

Related Question: Is the Mopar Oil Plan a good deal? It works out to $50 credit per oil change. Mopar tells the dealer they should not charge any more than $50, but does say that they cannot. The dealer will not put in writing that I will not have to pay out of pocket, but they let me talk to service who can verbally say that it should not. Mopar suggests the dealer charge the customer the dealer cost of $385, but I was sold it for $500 (actually I was sold the basic plan worth $220 for $500 before they upgraded me). I know that having it serviced by the dealer is probably a good idea for warranty sake, but I don't like the idea of not knowing the actual cost for sure. Basically I've paid $500 for 10x changes at $50 credit, so I don't save any money unless the dealer only charges $50 ($0 out of pocket) for the oil change. Also I get 10 free tire rotations as well.

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NBCGLX

· #3 · Apr 29, 2015

Newer cars, particularly those of European origin, don't have the typical OCIs of cars of yore. The Jiffy Lube 3,000-mile OCI is an old wive's tale that does not apply to modern day vehicles operated under normal driving conditions. With that in mind, the Renegade has a flexible OCI that is based on engine operating conditions, and the car will tell you when an oil change is needed (as soon as every 3,500 miles and as late as every 10,000 miles). The other maintenance items are on a fixed schedule to be completed on an annual basis or at 10,000-mile intervals, whichever comes first. Only if you regularly operate the engine under 'severe duty' conditions should you change the oil on a regular, shortened schedule (every 4,000 miles, regardless of what the car is telling you). This is all from the owner's manual beginning on page 509.

As for which oil to use in the 2.4l, it does seem synthetic isn't required, but oils that meet the MS-6395 standard are, and every oil I've found thus far that meets that standard is a synthetic. Point is, the oil must meet the MS-6395 standard, and that is the deciding factor. FCA recommends 0w-20 weigh oil for the 2.4l, per the owner's manual.

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tallawa2

· #4 · May 31, 2015

New TH owner. Same conclusions. I was unable to find any "regular" 0-20W oils that met the MS-6395 standard. So by default, I will be using a full synthetic brand for my first oil change.

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ManEater666

· #5 · Jul 5, 2015

NBCGLX said:
Newer cars, particularly those of European origin, don't have the typical OCIs of cars of yore. The Jiffy Lube 3,000-mile OCI is an old wive's tale that does not apply to modern day vehicles operated under normal driving conditions. With that in mind, the Renegade has a flexible OCI that is based on engine operating conditions, and the car will tell you when an oil change is needed (as soon as every 3,500 miles and as late as every 10,000 miles). The other maintenance items are on a fixed schedule to be completed on an annual basis or at 10,000-mile intervals, whichever comes first. Only if you regularly operate the engine under 'severe duty' conditions should you change the oil on a regular, shortened schedule (every 4,000 miles, regardless of what the car is telling you). This is all from the owner's manual beginning on page 509.

As for which oil to use in the 2.4l, it does seem synthetic isn't required, but oils that meet the MS-6395 standard are, and every oil I've found thus far that meets that standard is a synthetic. Point is, the oil must meet the MS-6395 standard, and that is the deciding factor. FCA recommends 0w-20 weigh oil for the 2.4l, per the owner's manual.

As far as i can say about oil change ... the car will tell you

I had the Rascal at the 20.000 km Service and the Car said Oil usage about 49% so no Oil Change necessary ... The Service Man said the Car will ask for the Change if it is necessary ... He guesses this will be around 30.000 km or so ... i drove the 20.000 km in about 4 Month ...

dabritbiker

· #6 · Feb 21, 2016

Mine came on at about 7800 miles. I was told at the dealer that it is a calculation by the PCM of miles, speed, idle time. a

lamont

· #7 · Mar 4, 2016

Relevant threads:

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/forum/426-maintenance-service/36569-oil-type-2.html#post401929

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo.../37081-engine-oil-specs-2-4-l.html#post383905

http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...-resetting-oil-change-required-indicator.html

Bunk

· #8 · May 8, 2016

impelus said:
Have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible, within the next 500 miles (805 km)."

NOTE: Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or one year, whichever
comes first.

My change oil light just came on. And i am already going to see the dealership on Tuesday. Does this mean "above" that I have a good 500 miles with the light on before i can change it?I should be okay to drive it to and from work. 10km one way to work. Any help would be nice, to calm my nerves down lol.

Jeepetto

· #9 · May 8, 2016

Best rule of thumb for cars running synthetic. Do the oil every 5000 miles and you will have very little chance of ever having mechanical breakdown of your engine, unless you drive like a moron. The moron rule always throws a wrench in the rule of thumb. But other than that you will ensure maximum life from your vehicles engines.

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The Drifter

· #10 · Jul 9, 2016

impelus said:
According the Owners Manual, it specifies the type of oil to use; however, it does not really go into enough detail, for me at least, which is why I wanted to post for advice.

Engine Oil With Filter
1.4L Turbo Engine (SAE 5W-40 Synthetic, API Certified) - 4.0 Quarts
"We recommend you use SAE 5W-40 API Certified Synthetic Engine Oil,
meeting the requirements of FCA US Material Standard MS-12991 such as
MOPAR, Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for
correct SAE grade."

2.4L Engine (SAE 0W-20, API Certified) - 5.5 Quarts
"We recommend you use SAE 0W-20 API Certified Engine Oil, meeting the
requirements of FCA US Material Standard MS-6395 such as MOPAR,
Pennzoil, and Shell Helix. Refer to your engine oil filler cap for correct SAE
grade."

Maintenance Schedule
"Your vehicle is equipped with an automatic oil change indicator system. The oil change indicator system will remind you that it is time to take your vehicle in for scheduled maintenance.

Based on engine operation conditions, the oil change indicator message will illuminate in the instrument cluster. This means that service is required for your vehicle. Operating conditions such as frequent short-trips, trailer
tow and extremely hot or cold ambient temperatures will influence when the “Change Oil” or “Oil Change Required” message is displayed. Severe Operating Conditions can cause the change oil message to illuminate as
early as 3,500 miles (5,600 km) since last reset. Have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible, within the next 500 miles (805 km)."

NOTE: Under no circumstances should oil change intervals
exceed 10,000 miles (16,000 km) or one year, whichever
comes first.

NBCGLX said:
Newer cars, particularly those of European origin, don't have the typical OCIs of cars of yore. The Jiffy Lube 3,000-mile OCI is an old wive's tale that does not apply to modern day vehicles operated under normal driving conditions. With that in mind, the Renegade has a flexible OCI that is based on engine operating conditions, and the car will tell you when an oil change is needed (as soon as every 3,500 miles and as late as every 10,000 miles). The other maintenance items are on a fixed schedule to be completed on an annual basis or at 10,000-mile intervals, whichever comes first. Only if you regularly operate the engine under 'severe duty' conditions should you change the oil on a regular, shortened schedule (every 4,000 miles, regardless of what the car is telling you). This is all from the owner's manual beginning on page 509.

As for which oil to use in the 2.4l, it does seem synthetic isn't required, but oils that meet the MS-6395 standard are, and every oil I've found thus far that meets that standard is a synthetic. Point is, the oil must meet the MS-6395 standard, and that is the deciding factor. FCA recommends 0w-20 weigh oil for the 2.4l, per the owner's manual.

Jeepetto said:
Best rule of thumb for cars running synthetic. Do the oil every 5000 miles and you will have very little chance of ever having mechanical breakdown of your engine, unless you drive like a moron. The moron rule always throws a wrench in the rule of thumb. But other than that you will ensure maximum life from your vehicles engines.

Do you think it would be a good idea to change the oil after the first 500 miles? The owners manual says that there is a 300 mile break-in period. I know in Chevrolet Corvette and Camaro, GM recommends that the oil be changed after the first 500 miles to remove metal shavings that come off of the inside of the engine during the break-in period...

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Jeepetto

· #11 · Jul 10, 2016

The Drifter said:
Do you think it would be a good idea to change the oil after the first 500 miles? The owners manual says that there is a 300 mile break-in period. I know in Chevrolet Corvette and Camaro, GM recommends that the oil be changed after the first 500 miles to remove metal shavings that come off of the inside of the engine during the break-in period...

In high horse power cars yes. But unless you're OCD save the money. Jeep charges a fortune for a synthetic oil change $110 before coupons. I am 5000 mile oil change OCD. Lol

Panzerkampfwagen

· #12 · Jul 11, 2016

Steering towards the first 5K miles for my oil change. Book it.

The Drifter

· #13 · Jul 11, 2016

Jeepetto said:
In high horse power cars yes. But unless you're OCD save the money. Jeep charges a fortune for a synthetic oil change $110 before coupons. I am 5000 mile oil change OCD. Lol

I'll change my own oil for that price, LOL! I haven't looked at the differences with this Jeep compared to my other cars, but it shouldn't be too bad. I'm going to use AMS oil in mine I think.

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twigaman

· #14 · Jul 12, 2016

Im closing in on 20,000 miles in my 2016 Trailhawk since last Dec 15th and my forth oil change.

SemperFi

· #15 · Jul 12, 2016

Im on my second Reny, my first one was a 2015 Limited, and there was just the service light as described. On my current Reny, 2016 TH, there is an actual oil change countdown screen as one of the information displays on the instrument panel.

Is this a new feature, or a TH feature? I cant recall exactly, but I think its on pace for me to get an oil change at or around 9000ish miles?..or maybe its not even an oil change screen, lol? What am I looking at here, it just says service? I suppose I can read the manual, but who does that nowadays?

FYI, I sold the first one to a family member in college and upgraded to the TH, in case any one was wondering.

kevinfourlegs

· #16 · Jul 12, 2016

I read the manual. Sometimes. I know, I need to get out more......

The Drifter

· #17 · Jul 13, 2016

SemperFi said:
Im on my second Reny, my first one was a 2015 Limited, and there was just the service light as described. On my current Reny, 2016 TH, there is an actual oil change countdown screen as one of the information displays on the instrument panel.

Is this a new feature, or a TH feature? I cant recall exactly, but I think its on pace for me to get an oil change at or around 9000ish miles?..or maybe its not even an oil change screen, lol? What am I looking at here, it just says service? I suppose I can read the manual, but who does that nowadays?

FYI, I sold the first one to a family member in college and upgraded to the TH, in case any one was wondering.

Yes the service screen is an estimated time of when your next oil change will be due, it gives you days and miles.

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The Drifter

· #18 · Jul 13, 2016

Jeepetto said:
In high horse power cars yes. But unless you're OCD save the money. Jeep charges a fortune for a synthetic oil change $110 before coupons. I am 5000 mile oil change OCD. Lol

The dealer told me I get 4 free oil changes through Jeep and that they expire 24 months from the purchase date. Why does high horsepower engines matter? I feel like the 1.4L engine is under more stress than a Corvette or Camaro engine, as those are 6.2L engines that produce about 73 horsepower per liter, and the Renegade produces about 114 horsepower per liter...

JustSynthetic.com

· #19 · Jul 21, 2016

Oil Change ???'s

Hey Everyone,

I did my first at 1k then 15k after that point. I use Amsoil Signature Series of course. My filter is full synthetic media good for 15k also, its not paper filament.

I have the trans service going to Amsoil at 10k miles and good for 50k after that.

My next project is By-Pass filter and Hitch!

moparbob

· #20 · Jul 21, 2016

SemperFi said:
Im on my second Reny, my first one was a 2015 Limited, and there was just the service light as described. On my current Reny, 2016 TH, there is an actual oil change countdown screen as one of the information displays on the instrument panel.

Is this a new feature, or a TH feature? I cant recall exactly, but I think its on pace for me to get an oil change at or around 9000ish miles?..or maybe its not even an oil change screen, lol? What am I looking at here, it just says service? I suppose I can read the manual, but who does that nowadays?

FYI, I sold the first one to a family member in college and upgraded to the TH, in case any one was wondering.

2016 TH has a oil change indicator and a 10k service maintenance count down. They are 2 different things.

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