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I got my Jeep Renegade Trailhawk September 19. I haven't really drove it that much or been to far in it but over the last few weeks I've felt and noticed a few things wrong with her.

The first problem is while driving I feel a vibration in the brake when stopping. I couldn't tell if it was the ABS or the brakes and rotors. I've only had it a little over a month so in my mind I was thinking okay maybe just break rust wearing off. I only drive it to work and back home and that's only 30 miles total in a day. So I was really puzzled.

The second problem is when I stop at a light and hit the gas it stalls and then jumps off really hard. This is in automatic. So I tried driving manual and noticed everytime I go to manual while sitting still it's always in second gear. I find that not to be normal. I would think it should drop to first when it's in automatic and them gradually switch gears. But like I said it doesn't.

The third is with my 6.5 inch uconnect radio. When using my bluetooth to stream music it skips and jumps through songs. It doesn't matter if I'm using my ipod, ipad, galaxy tab and or iphone. But I don't have this problem when I connect in my other car to bluetooth music. Plus the apps like Pandora and others aren't even available like I thought they would be.

Don't get me wrong I've fell in love with my TH but these things are not cool after I waited almost 3 months for her to be built.

So yesterday I took her back to the dealer for them to check her out. I explained about the brakes and he said maybe it's because it was sitting up during inspection and the rotors and brakes got rusty. So it might have just took time to wear off. Which to me didn't make any since. It's a brand new built from scratch truck there should be nothing like that possible.

So then we started talking about the acceleration in manual and automatic and he said it's like an electric engine so when you stop at a light the engine cuts of then cuts back on when you pull off. But in second gear I asked. He looked puzzled. In the end he said just let us check it out.

Got a loaner and the whole day went by I finally had to call them to find out the truck wouldn't be ready. So they figured out that in one month the brakes and rotors are completely worn out. That I don't understand. But he then tells me that they have to have someone else look at it because they need to see if the rotors have to be replaced or cut down. But he couldn't tell me what could make something like this happen. Just said they are going to cut or replace them.

He couldn't tell me anything about the auto and manual problem either. Just said some specialist was coming in today to take a look at it and the uconnect radio so I'm assuming it's electrical.

Once I find out more about all the issues I'll post more.
 

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2nd gear start is 100% normal and intentional for the trailhawk. The final drive ratio is different than the other models, and combined with the REALLY short first gear, it's next to useless. This is intentional, because what it does get you is the 20:1 crawl ratio when you engage 4 low. No need to worry about it.

The 6.5 built in apps are a known problem. Essentially the marketing department sold one thing, and u connect delivered another. I have my doubts it will ever be resolved as the 2016 models are supposed to get uconnect v2.0. I'm not sure what recourse is available on this issue. I don't have the 6.5, I have the 5.0. The only issues I have with skipping and weird stuff is if the phone is in my pocket and the bluetooth signal is borderline, or is the phone has gotten in a weird state. I've only used it with my iphone, and have verified that the weirdnesses have all been phone related, fixed with a reboot, and seem to have not recurred with updates to the OS that have patched their new music app multiple times. Weirdness included umping tracks, wrong song titles and images displayed, etc. I believed it was the head unit too until it happened a couple times not hooked up to the car, so... I haven't used my android devices with the vehicle, but I can say skipping/pausing has always been a problem with them if you don't take care with what is running, but jumping songs has not been one of them.

As for the brake noise, rotors rust up really quick. They are not even remotely stainless steel. That being said, oxidation form sitting overnight in humidity/rain should last one, maybe two stops before going way. Every car gets that stuff, but in the last ~30 years of car ownership, that is scraped off with the first braking when unparking my vehicle. (some exceptions for exceptionally awful winters with gobs of road salt where it took a couple of brake applications). I'll also note that for about the first month/~1000 miles, the pads make a kind of aggressive noise that's hard to explain. It sounds a bit growly, but something I'd chalk up to compound choice in the pad. It smoothed out a lot after the first 1000 miles.

Also, unless you bedded the brakes, they probably weren't bedded. This can lead to uneven deposits of friction material.

This is a decent description of what I have found to be a solid bedding procedure.

http://www.autoaccessoriesgarage.com/Brakes/How-To-Bed-In-Your-Brakes

Beyond that, there's a TSB for brake squealing. http://www.jeeprenegadeforum.com/fo...7562-tsb-front-brake-squeak-squeal-noise.html You don't seem to describe squealing, but text descriptions of sounds are usually not reliable ;)
 

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Thanks for the explanation about the manual to auto transmission. Now it makes sense. But about the brakes it's crazy that after one month and 900 miles that the brakes and rotors are completely gone. The dealer just called and said that it's ready so I'm going to see how they explain this.
 

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. . . What do you mean change from automatic to manual?
The automatic shift lever works completely automatically while in drive. If you move the shift lever from D (drive) to + - (manual), then the transmission will hold the gear selected until you shift it yourself by pressing forward or backward. Many modern cars have this feature these days.

But the transmission will intervene while in manual mode if the rpms get too high or too low and shift the transmission for you.
 

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The automatic shift lever works completely automatically while in drive. If you move the shift lever from D (drive) to + - (manual), then the transmission will hold the gear selected until you shift it yourself by pressing forward or backward. Many modern cars have this feature these days.

But the transmission will intervene while in manual mode if the rpms get too high or too low and shift the transmission for you.
I had no idea what those were for. I thought it was like the D2 D3 in my old car, way off :p Probably best I don't ever use them if I do not know how to drive a manual transmission, right? haha
 

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The second problem is when I stop at a light and hit the gas it stalls and then jumps off really hard. This is in automatic. So I tried driving manual and noticed everytime I go to manual while sitting still it's always in second gear. I find that not to be normal. I would think it should drop to first when it's in automatic and them gradually switch gears. But like I said it doesn't.
I don't know if this helps or not, but I ran into an issue with my TH where I had a similar symptom: I'd get to a light or any stopped area and when I'd give it gas, there'd almost be like a "stall" or delay of a few seconds, and then I'd get power. It let to a few scary situations where I pulled out in front of people and didn't get power immediately. The issue wouldn't happen all the time, but it'd always happen at the worst time..

I had to take my TH to my local dealer and they applied a few updates with the powertrain and tranny I believe. I've been good ever since then, no power issues at all. Have you asked your dealer about this?
 

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Sorry for the late reply I've been working like crazy. So, I took my TH to the dealer and they kept it over night and could find nothing wrong. They reset the whole system and there was nothing wrong with the brakes. The brakes felt that way because it's all new. I had it built so it's about getting them used to my stopping they told me and the same with the way I drive. When I stop the engine shuts off and when I come off the break the engine starts back up. The dealer told me it takes up to around 3,000 miles for it to learn my habits. But they reset the whole system so I have to start from scratch. I'll wait to see after 3,000 if somethings stays the same. I really love my JEEP TH though. Everywhere I go people admire it. I hate winter is coming here in Chicago because I really haven't had the chance to enjoy my sunroofs. I'm thinking of putting her away and just drive my Ford Explorer over the winter. We'll see. I have to see how the 4x4 works in the winter though. I just don't want all the salt and ice to damage her. Keep in touch good people.
 

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When I stop the engine shuts off and when I come off the break the engine starts back up. The dealer told me it takes up to around 3,000 miles for it to learn my habits. But they reset the whole system so I have to start from scratch.
Wait a minute, the Renegade has a Stop-Start system? I only thought the Jeep Cherokee and Chrysler 200 with the 2.4 Tigershark engine has Stop-Start.

Can anyone confirm this.

TS
 

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The mechanics at the dealership said so. Maybe he was just feeding me some BS. But I had a loaner Jeep Cherokee and it actually was doing the same thing. If anyone really knows let us know.
 

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I got my Jeep Renegade Trailhawk September 19. I haven't really drove it that much or been to far in it but over the last few weeks I've felt and noticed a few things wrong with her.

The first problem is while driving I feel a vibration in the brake when stopping. I couldn't tell if it was the ABS or the brakes and rotors. I've only had it a little over a month so in my mind I was thinking okay maybe just break rust wearing off. I only drive it to work and back home and that's only 30 miles total in a day. So I was really puzzled.
Have the dealer check runout on the brake rotors.

The second problem is when I stop at a light and hit the gas it stalls and then jumps off really hard. This is in automatic. So I tried driving manual and noticed everytime I go to manual while sitting still it's always in second gear. I find that not to be normal. I would think it should drop to first when it's in automatic and them gradually switch gears. But like I said it doesn't.
Unless forced into first gear, it will start in 2nd. Stalling at idle could be a problem with the ICV. I don't know if the Renegade has an ICV, and it's usually a problem with older cars.

The third is with my 6.5 inch uconnect radio. When using my bluetooth to stream music it skips and jumps through songs. It doesn't matter if I'm using my ipod, ipad, galaxy tab and or iphone. But I don't have this problem when I connect in my other car to bluetooth music. Plus the apps like Pandora and others aren't even available like I thought they would be.
No idea.

Don't get me wrong I've fell in love with my TH but these things are not cool after I waited almost 3 months for her to be built.

So yesterday I took her back to the dealer for them to check her out. I explained about the brakes and he said maybe it's because it was sitting up during inspection and the rotors and brakes got rusty. So it might have just took time to wear off. Which to me didn't make any since. It's a brand new built from scratch truck there should be nothing like that possible.

So then we started talking about the acceleration in manual and automatic and he said it's like an electric engine so when you stop at a light the engine cuts of then cuts back on when you pull off. But in second gear I asked. He looked puzzled. In the end he said just let us check it out.

Got a loaner and the whole day went by I finally had to call them to find out the truck wouldn't be ready. So they figured out that in one month the brakes and rotors are completely worn out. That I don't understand. But he then tells me that they have to have someone else look at it because they need to see if the rotors have to be replaced or cut down. But he couldn't tell me what could make something like this happen. Just said they are going to cut or replace them.

He couldn't tell me anything about the auto and manual problem either. Just said some specialist was coming in today to take a look at it and the uconnect radio so I'm assuming it's electrical.

Once I find out more about all the issues I'll post more.
 

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Wait a minute, the Renegade has a Stop-Start system? I only thought the Jeep Cherokee and Chrysler 200 with the 2.4 Tigershark engine has Stop-Start.

Can anyone confirm this.

TS
Yes, I have a Stop/Start system. I have the Limited 1.4 M/T.
 
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