Renegade v Patriot?

icuff4cash said:

I like the patriots also what killed them the trail rated comes with a bad cvt. And they went cheap on interior trim. I don't see why so many kick there tires. There's tons of them still running. People forget there d&a. I don't want to be rude to anyone I'm looking to get some jeep products but. The renagade is from fix it again tony. It's been 3 years and be honest with everyone. The transmission suck look how many problems are posted on a new $30 grand SUV?. It's like lip stick on a pig. It's a fiat plain and simple. But when I was at the dealer Saturday the salesman said if you don't need a car wait. January or February the new patriots will be here. Totally different car on a stretch platform. Bigger than a renagade and smaller than than a Cherokee. He claims its to fill the voided area and tow around 3,500 pounds. And speaking of problems the other fourm is posting 4x4 lock out problems on units with 10 grand on the ticker. There trail hawk is not staying in 4 wheel lock and getting error ****s. I don't know I'm not a new world auto tec. I still like pre 1990 cars and trucks. But everyone has put bigger tires on there SUV. Not monsters but 2 sizes plus.
Just my 2 cents don't shoot me. But this SUV has been out long enuff to get some of there bugs out.

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1 - the transmission isn't fiat. It's in the rengade, the cherokee, the CRV fro north america, an acura sedan, etc. You aren't getting away form the more complex high number of gear transmissions. It will also be in the new compass. The patriot name is dead, I don't know why people pretend FCA didn't say that. It could be a totally new name, but they have said patriot is dead and implied compass stays.

2 - that bigger patriot replacement? That will be based on the same platform as the renegade. With the same transmission. And the same engine. And the same AWD system. We might be seeing the 2017 vehicles get teh replacement for the 2.4 tigershark across the board, but without more power, more weight, and more wheelbase, it probably won't be rated to tow any more.

3 - FCA's beta culture has been a probelm since before FCA was FCA, and is common DNA on both sides of the family tree.


4 - your summary, based on ignorance, is that you shoudn't buy renegades, because they aren't as cool or have as good of a transmission as one of the most disliked SUVs in recent history with a worse interior and a disliked transmission. and that you should wait if you are thinking of buying, because you can avoid the fiat DNA by buying the patriot replacement, which is going to be based on the same chassis and drive train as the renegade.

I'll just borrow Gene here, because he was awesome. Your conclusions and advice are not.