Hope they will resolve this. Was just about to factory order then I found out the issue that is now plaguing the renegade. Want the vehicle but don't want one with serious issues.
[Resolved]Jeep Renegades Being Held Over 9-Speed Issue (2015)
Jeep is holding back a number of Renegades from dealers because of a software issue.
FCA CEO Sergio Marchionne says that some Renegades are having a similar transmission software issue that plagued the larger Cherokee crossover. The Cherokee’s launch was delayed in 2013 over the problem with its nine-speed automatic transmission, the same unit used in the Renegade.
“I’m having a very bad engineering day,” Marchionne said. “It’s a combination of attributes of that vehicle that is making my life horrible.”
FCA was forced to re-flash nine-speed transmissions in the Cherokee and Chrysler 200 after numerous customers complained of hard shifts, lunging and other problems.
Marchionne says that any Renegades currently being held will be released for purchase by mid-June at the latest.
Source: [Autoguide.com]
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Sounds like we're better off waiting till late 2015 when our chances of a problem-less renegade will be available and we'll even get a chance to get a cheaper renegade too.Hope they will resolve this. Was just about to factory order then I found out the issue that is now plaguing the renegade. Want the vehicle but don't want one with serious issues.
I have one on order and am thinking of walking. I didn't want an automatic to begin with and certainly don't want to play games.
I just bought a Renegade Latitude with the nine speed trans and the shifting is normal-no hard shifts or anything unusual. However, I'm still plagued with hard low gear shifting with my 2014 Cherokee Latitude nine speed.
I didn't want an automatic either (my Challenger is a manual) but I wanted to get the Trailhawk. The 9-speed in my Trailhawk has been fine thus far without issue. The shifting is a little different than the run of the mill 4 or 5 speed automatic, but I believe it is the nature of the beast.
With that written, I know that doesn't console those who have major problems. but I'd bet the vast majority of 9 speeds are okay. Once you get used to the slightly over-aggressive rev-matching, you'll find that it works quite well.
With that written, I know that doesn't console those who have major problems. but I'd bet the vast majority of 9 speeds are okay. Once you get used to the slightly over-aggressive rev-matching, you'll find that it works quite well.
I don't imagine this recall will stop production. They'll just flash the new cars with the new software. If the car has been built already, it will need to be reflashed.
I wonder how long until they figure out how to tune the 9speed to work properly. Are the Cherokee guys still having major issues or have most of them been resolved?
Then again, I wonder how long they will use the 9speed before they decide to either go with something older and proven, or engineer something different.
Then again, I wonder how long they will use the 9speed before they decide to either go with something older and proven, or engineer something different.
Can vouch for the fact that the Cherokee's transmission still has issues. My mother-in-law has put nearly 30K miles on hers now and it still shifts low gears in an obnoxious and irritating manner. It's simply not fun to drive. I've never driven a V-6 with such poor acceleration. I feel like my CR-V is nearly as quick off the line. Certainly smoother by a long shot.I wonder how long until they figure out how to tune the 9speed to work properly. Are the Cherokee guys still having major issues or have most of them been resolved?
Then again, I wonder how long they will use the 9speed before they decide to either go with something older and proven, or engineer something different.
Hello, just picked
up our Trail Hawk from the dealer today. Loaded with all except Sky roof. So far runs great, shifts fine and is very peppy better than I expected.
up our Trail Hawk from the dealer today. Loaded with all except Sky roof. So far runs great, shifts fine and is very peppy better than I expected.
Trailhawk w/ 9 Speed
I bought my TH the day after they got them on the lot back in March. I absolutely love it. However, I am at around 2,000 miles and have started to notice that he likes to stay in a lower gear when going down long hills. This isn't really an issue for me since I can put it in manual mode and go up a gear or two. I could see how it might annoy some people who don't want to mess with shifting. I have also noticed that when at slow speeds (like in parking lots, etc), it seems to always be in a lower gear than needed and the engine's RPM's are at around 2,500 which seems high for traveling at <5 MPH. Bottom line, I still absolutely love the vehicle and neither of these problems overly concern me. If they want to flash my transmission, I'll just have the wife cover her eyes. Plus, I knew full well there might be issues with a brand new model. It's a common occurrence with any auto maker. For those of you who want a 'problem free' experience, don't worry. We'll work out these bugs for you!
I bought my TH the day after they got them on the lot back in March. I absolutely love it. However, I am at around 2,000 miles and have started to notice that he likes to stay in a lower gear when going down long hills. This isn't really an issue for me since I can put it in manual mode and go up a gear or two. I could see how it might annoy some people who don't want to mess with shifting. I have also noticed that when at slow speeds (like in parking lots, etc), it seems to always be in a lower gear than needed and the engine's RPM's are at around 2,500 which seems high for traveling at <5 MPH. Bottom line, I still absolutely love the vehicle and neither of these problems overly concern me. If they want to flash my transmission, I'll just have the wife cover her eyes. Plus, I knew full well there might be issues with a brand new model. It's a common occurrence with any auto maker. For those of you who want a 'problem free' experience, don't worry. We'll work out these bugs for you!
But I wonder, is this a ZF problem or an FCA problem... Sergio is notoriously hard on his suppliers, I wonder if this has anything to do with quality?
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-costs-damages-supplier-relations-survey-says
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...-costs-damages-supplier-relations-survey-says
I bought a Trailhawk April 4th and I'm very happy with it. I almost have 2000 miles in it and the 9 speed transmission works perfect, my only concern is that even if you're going 65 miles per hour, A/C off, flat road (highway), driving alone with no extra baggage, you will not get the 31 mpg FCA promised, you will get at the most 28, and that's driving 300 miles non stop at 65 mph, I feel FCA should adjust the mileage a little bit, they're are lying!!
is this a problem with all Renegates (currently on the lot for sale) or only the new ones that are made just recently?
Yes, All Renegades, pot luck, your experience may vary...is this a problem with all Renegates (currently on the lot for sale) or only the new ones that are made just recently?
So is it a software issue or a hardware problem?
From what I've read, seems like it maybe the ZF 9-speed transmission hardware, and they are trying to cure its ills with software.So is it a software issue or a hardware problem?
The zf 9 speed has its quirks, smoothing over them takes effort. Whether you can do so and please the mass market remains to be seen. IMO fca didn't do enough development based on the issues in the tsb. When one of the errors is that sensors are giving improbable results, someone screwed up something in code or sensor selection.From what I've read, seems like it maybe the ZF 9-speed transmission hardware, and they are trying to cure its ills with software.
You'll get 31 mpg driving carefully and at only 55 mph. The extra 15 mph costs you 3 mpg.I bought a Trailhawk April 4th and I'm very happy with it. I almost have 2000 miles in it and the 9 speed transmission works perfect, my only concern is that even if you're going 65 miles per hour, A/C off, flat road (highway), driving alone with no extra baggage, you will not get the 31 mpg FCA promised, you will get at the most 28, and that's driving 300 miles non stop at 65 mph, I feel FCA should adjust the mileage a little bit, they're are lying!!
Put 900 miles on my Trail Hawk since I picked it up 2 weeks ago. Mostly highway driving. Acceleration is better than I expected. Have not experienced any hard shifts with the transmission. When using it in the manual shift mode, and shifting in the power band, it does "hard shift", but this is normal for sport shifting. Observations thusfar is driving in normal drive mode at low speeds where I find the transmission seems to want to keep itself in a higher gear which produces a less than expected response when I try to accelerate. I now expect this so a quick pedal press forces a downshift to a lower gear. Manual shifting gets me 6 of the 9 gears to play with.
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