[eggwardo]

Hi everyone,
I have the 6 speaker audio system and have been thinking about upgrading it just a bit to (hopefully) get a little better bass and a more "full" sound. My previous car was a chevy cruze and I had the upgraded pioneer sound system and I was happy with that. I'm hoping to get the sound in the renegade to be on the same level. Nothing too extreme, just more clear when i crank it up and a little better bass, my neighbors don't need to hear me coming a mile away.

I had been thinking I would add a small sub but I'm not sure if i want to do that right now because i don't want to loose any storage space in the back. Plus I read on here that someone thought just adding a sub would overpower the other speakers. I also saw that the speakers are getting just 30 watts each, so maybe that is true, I don't know...

I saw on another post where Rebel recommended some JBL speakers and a sub. So now i'm thinking about just replacing my 6x9's with those

Has anyone done anything like this? What kind of improvement should i expect from that upgrade?

thanks

 

[B3ND3R]

Back in the day I used to do car installs for bestbuy people would do this all the time, upgrade their speakers without upgrading anything else. You do get a better speaker but the problem with that is the the jbl speakers requre more poower than what your stock system puts out. So when you put in the after market speakers your system will actualy not be as loude. I got the base 4 speaker system my plan is to get a line output converter to the stock radio hook up 2 amps to that, one for a sub the other for the 4 speakers ill put in. But im going to change the front speakers to 6.5" component spekers then keep the rears as 6x9 speakers

 

[evrafter]

Back in the day I used to do car installs for bestbuy people would do this all the time, upgrade their speakers without upgrading anything else. You do get a better speaker but the problem with that is the the jbl speakers requre more poower than what your stock system puts out. So when you put in the after market speakers your system will actualy not be as loude. I got the base 4 speaker system my plan is to get a line output converter to the stock radio hook up 2 amps to that, one for a sub the other for the 4 speakers ill put in. But im going to change the front speakers to 6.5" component spekers then keep the rears as 6x9 speakers

Go check out my last comment in my Base Speakers thread. The audio peeps I went to did EXACTLY what you're planning. Yay...that makes me feel solid in that they did the right thing. Now if only I could get my higher bass to hit. Rebel is working on helping me out in that. Something about a low pass crossover. Not sure how to do that on my woofer seen here:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_13616LW3V3/JL-Audio-CP106LG-W3v3.html?tp=112&awkw=75620050705&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=47439185305&awdv=m

 

[B3ND3R]

I read your list it's very similar to mine. I would like to know what line output converter your using?
This is the one I'm planning on buying

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_161LCQ1G/AudioControl-LCQ-1-Gray.html?tp=61658

It actually has the abilities of a basic audio processor built into it so I can adjust what frequencies go to what amp. So for my sub amp will only have low frequencies go to it and the speaker amp will get most of the rest. Pluss I can control gain with this one.

 

[10362 - deactivated]

I have purchased the JBL 6x9s and the JBL 3 1/2". My stock system in the 2015 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk is the upgraded 9 speaker with amp. The JBLs are 2ohm impedence and JBL calls it "True 4-Ohm". I fiigured that a low-cost update to the speakers with these very efficient speakers might give me better sound -- not necessarily louder; but I'm also hoping not quieter.

They will be professionally installed next week at a serious audio store. Afterwards I can determine if the amp needs an upgrade and the "sub-woofer". It's also a good test to see if these speakers will work as I hope or if I need to split apart the front into true components. I'm all about better sound and not necessarily louder. It seems everyone here is of the same mind in that regard -- I love this site and I really appreciate the posts that you are all putting in this forum.

Thank you to B3ND3R, evrafter and eggwardo for the original post. I'm following this thread along with one or two more that are similar.

Quark

 

[evrafter]

I think I'm taking my car back in today to see if they can tweek my amp. I get BOOMING bass....surprisingly so being that it's only a 6.5" woofer. But, I seem to be missing midtones or higher bass notes. I'll be cruising along listening, then BAM..thumbing low bass. Seems odd to me.

 

[evrafter]

Update: Took car in. They raised low cross frequency from 80 to 125 so there won't be as dramatic sudden out of no where BOOM when the low bass hits. What I need is another amp for the 6.5 component speakers and the 6x9 coaxials. This will bring out those mid notes and higher bass notes I was looking for to fill in the gaps. The tech listening said, as is, it sounds GREAT. Said I was actually really smart to have them take out the big 10" woofer and box, and replace with that JL 6.5" woofer...smaller and hits just as hard. He also said, if it was him, he'd save the money, wait, see how I like the current settings before throwing any more money at it. That right there made me more confident that they were honest with me this whole process.

With the changing of the low pass frequency, my bass also sounds a bit tighter now. So, I'll wait before deciding on an amp for the front, I THINK. He mentioned the wiring and new amp might run me another $500. Ummm...no. I bet I can get a good amp and maybe a cousin to wire it in for me this time. LOL

Oh and B3ND3R, according to my paperwork, this is what they used http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fCkSnDmUdI0/p_161LC2I/AudioControl-LC2i.html

They also gave me extra audiowire for if I take a trip and need to move me woofer and amp around for luggage space. Oh and...since my amp is drilled to the back of my woofer box, they suggested I out a foam strip on my amp so it never risks touching my leather back seat, as the amp can get hot.

 

[renefan]

I am planning on upgrading the stereo in my Renegade (with the 4 speaker system). I want to upgrade the speakers themselves and add a subwoofer. The speakers and the subwoofer would be powered by a JL audio HD 900/5 which amplifies the main speakers and has a channel for a mono sub.


Two questions: Does anybody know where I can find wiring schematics for the radio? I need to tap into the speaker outputs coming out of the factory head unit.


And secondly, anyone know how to access the radio? What needs to come off to gain access...? Does the whole dash have to come apart?

 

[trix]

my mistake was, not listening to my dealer, not to order the beats sound system which is much worse than the 6 speaker system.
now i have to search about a solution :-/ which is not twice as expansive as the "premium sound system" was.
question:
- has someone already remove the front door panels and can give some hints?
- has someone removed the head unit and give some hints how to do?
- amp-replacemanet: that audiocontrol - thing:B3ND3R. have you already installed that device? das everything work properly? (I disconnected the sub-woofer and got 2 failure messages: audio device not available / rear parking sensor not availabel?!

 

[Mechie]

Getting ready to do the install on mine as well. Had the 4 speaker stock.

Running the stock head unit
Audison BitOne DSP
Focal 2 way components in doors
Arc Audio 850.5
Illusion Audio c10

I haven't had a chance to pull door panels or radio yet.

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[wvanbusk]

6 speaker upgrade

I also have the 6 speaker system and it did not sound very "full". I replaced the stock full range in dash 3.5 inch speakers with pioneer 2 ways. That simple change made a big difference in the mid and high ranges. The dash speakers are an easy swap and a very worthwhile upgrade. Pictures are at http://pub.lavachamber.com For the bass, space can be conserved by using a powered subwoofer under the passenger seat; somthing like this https://ridebass.com/reviewing-some-of-the-best-underseat-subwoofers/

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Hi everyone,
I have the 6 speaker audio system and have been thinking about upgrading it just a bit to (hopefully) get a little better bass and a more "full" sound. My previous car was a chevy cruze and I had the upgraded pioneer sound system and I was happy with that. I'm hoping to get the sound in the renegade to be on the same level. Nothing too extreme, just more clear when i crank it up and a little better bass, my neighbors don't need to hear me coming a mile away.

I had been thinking I would add a small sub but I'm not sure if i want to do that right now because i don't want to loose any storage space in the back. Plus I read on here that someone thought just adding a sub would overpower the other speakers. I also saw that the speakers are getting just 30 watts each, so maybe that is true, I don't know...

I saw on another post where Rebel recommended some JBL speakers and a sub. So now i'm thinking about just replacing my 6x9's with those JBL's? Has anyone done anything like this? What kind of improvement should i expect from that upgrade?

thanks

 

[TH4x4]

So what speakers would you recommend as a "drop in" replacement for the stock base dash speakers?

 

[wvanbusk]

The stock 3.5 dash speakers are unique in ohms but do not produce a lot of sound at higher frequencies. The stock system seems a bit muffled to me. I like Pioneer and they get good reviews too. Any replacements are generally going to be lower resistance 4 ohms and based on my swap, seem to reduce the bass coming from the door speakers. Here are a couple of reviews of 3.5 speakers that reinforced my position in the pioneer camp.
http://stereochamp.com/3-5-inch-speakers-reviews/
http://99carstereo.com/reviewing-best-3-5-inch-car-speakers/

 

[jjp735i]

I also went with pioneers in my 6 speakers system. I did the dash and the rears. Very please with the sound. You can really hear the bass from the rears now. Planing on doing a under seat sub and the fronts soon. It's odd, but on different stations and even playing from the usb, sometimes the rears carry more sound in the mids and highs. Don't know why that is, but I've tested it by moving the fad to full rear and I can easily hear the difference. I wish Jeep would push more highs and mids to the rears.

 

[J&JPolangin]

I've also had good luck with JVC and Addzest (Japanese model clarion speakers) and kenwood separate tweeters in many installs I've done over the last 23 years...

 

[nathanbush]

There is a lot that goes into the word "best" when it comes to car audio.

It's all about power.

A set of crappy speakers being pushed by a solid amp. will sound a lot better than a set of great speakers running off the head unit. Start with what is going to be pushing the speakers, head unit (factory or A/M), an amp. etc.

Here you can have a look at the Best 6.5 Car Speakers in 2021 – The Ultimate Buyer’s Guide

Also, this one: https://www.amazon.com/Rockford-Fosgate-P1683-Punch-Speaker/dp/B001P88U12/