[Marek K]

really really hate not being able to over ride it.

Not being able to permanently override it, right? I hear ya...

 

[RWG75]

I'll hack the thing before doing this, hopefully.

Jeep Auto Start-Stop Disable

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[Marek K]

I'll hack the thing before doing this, hopefully.

Jeep Auto Start-Stop Disable

The Autostop Eliminator is designed to safely disable the start-stop feature on your Jeep. Plug it in & it’s ready to work. Disable your Jeep’s auto stop today

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Interesting, though I agree risky. Unfortunately, the Renegade isn't among the vehicles offered...

 

[RWG75]

there's one out there somewhere and kinda suspect not 100% model specific. the bit that gets flipped when ya push the button is likely in the DTC. the widget basically monitors that bit, saves the current state, restores it at start up. too simple to be dangerous or expensive.

 

[Nev]

I really wish the auto stop on ours would stop working. Really hate the feature, really really hate not being able to over ride it. Apparently not enough to buy the OBDC widget but not my car.

There is a button to turn it off.

 

[puddlesplasher]

The same button on my Renegade sits on the centre console.

I was thinking I had confused the topic with something unknown to me on our Renegades.

 

[georgef]

There is a button to turn it off.

On the US models it defaults to on at each key on cycle, so it needs to be switched off manually. I think people are trying to avoid the need to continually turn it off.

 

[RWG75]

Exactly - do the euro / world versions not do that??

 

[georgef]

Exactly - do the euro / world versions not do that??

I know that in some regions the last setting is remembered through key cycles.

I suspect that it is required to be on by default in the US because the fuel economy on the Monroney sticker is based on stop/start being active.

 

[RWG75]

ok, hack the little bugger it is. if they were smart, they tied it to a location setting in the nav or someplace that would actually matter. I'm gonna have to contact AppCar and see when they're gonna add renegade support because they've got a sweet little widget for this sort of thing.

Jeep – Appcar DiagFCA – diagnostic tool

appcar-diagfca.com

 

[Nev]

Mine deactivated until reactivated.
But I think the more recent ones all turn it back on.
Not really an issue with the PHEV any more.

It was the same with the RangeRover. I just got used to pressing the button. Like I now have to do with the damn Lane Assist on the Compass.

 

[Marek K]

I just got used to pressing the button. Like I now have to do with the damn Lane Assist on the Compass.

Really...? That's interesting, because when I disable Lane Assist on my 2021 U.S.-market Trailhawk, it stays disabled even for future driving cycles.

I really tried to live with lane assist being enabled in some way, but it was way too annoying. Automatically having it nudge the steering wheel back just drove me crazy. And even just the visual alert was annoying.

And no, I'm not weaving back and forth across lanes...

 

[Nev]

New Lane Assist is extremely intrusive. It grabs the wheel at every opportunity. And resets to on/most aggressive intervention setting every time you press Start.

 

[RWG75]

remember the good old days when it was just a yellow flash in the side mirror?

 

[puddlesplasher]

On the US models it defaults to on at each key on cycle, so it needs to be switched off manually. I think people are trying to avoid the need to continually turn it off.

Ahh that makes sense. Whereas the UK model stays OFF until manually reactuated.

I understand now.

 

[RWG75]

I think lane assist would loose it's damn mind the way my girl messes with her phone while driving.

 

[Nev]

She needs the new Level II autonomous version: Steers you between the lines. I did not pay the extra €250 for that particular option.

 

[Marek K]

New Lane Assist is extremely intrusive. It grabs the wheel at every opportunity. And resets to on/most aggressive intervention setting every time you press Start.

Yes, the steering-wheel jerking is extremely intrusive. And I just checked; it's LaneSense, not Lane Assist.

There are sensitivity settings through the Uconnect 4C NAV on my U.S.-version 2021 Trailhawk; or the entire LaneSense nonsense can be disabled (permanently) by pressing the button at the red arrow -- amber indicator light shows that it's disabled:

Owner's Manual: "The LaneSense system will retain the last system state on or off from the last ignition cycle when the ignition is changed to the ON/ RUN position."

I just wish my U.S.-market Auto Stop/Start could be similarly permanently disabled...

 

[Marek K]

There's another safety feature that I'm really on the fence about... The Blind Spot Alert. That gives a really annoying sound when I use a turn signal, and there's a car in the blind spot on that side. And, the way I've got it set above, a small amber light in my outside mirror.

I don't mind the light; it's the sound that can be extremely annoying. Mainly because it sounds even when I'm in a two-lane turn lane. I can't remember offhand -- they've got those in Europe, right?

So if I'm the vehicle at the yellow arrow, stopped at the traffic light there with my left-side turn signal on and a car in the other turn lane on my left, I'd be fine as long as the traffic light was red. But as soon as the light turns green and we start moving, the Blind Spot Alert will sound and scare the bejeezus out of me -- even though I'm staying in my turn lane.

I could change the Blind Spot alert to Lights only -- but then I wouldn't have the sound alert when I really need it... When changing lanes when I don't happen to see a car in my blind spot, which does happen occasionally. Particularly here in the U.S., where it's legal to pass/overtake on the right; and a lot of idiots think nothing of doing that at high speed...

 

[Nev]

There are sensitivity settings through the Uconnect 4C NAV on my U.S.-version 2021 Trailhawk; or the entire LaneSense nonsense can be disabled (permanently) by pressing the button at the red arrow -- amber indicator light shows that it's disabled:

On the new UConnect, in the 2022 Compass, this gets reactivated and all settings switch back to default/most aggressive ones each time you start the car.

AND you have to press the button twice to deactivate it.