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One of the biggest challenges consumers face when comparing product(s) are the manufacturer claims of performance (horsepower & torque) gains when installing aftermarket product(s). We at MADNESS often find it challenging to try and compare dyno claims given by manufacturers when put into real-world driving conditions and situations.

Simply put, there are so many variables when comparing claims and dyno info that it is hard to determine legitimate gains of power (performance) from those artificially inflated ones. The challenge here is to figure out a way to setup a dyno with repeatable testing conditions that can most closely mimic every day (optimal) road conditions in order to show consistent gains for each vehicle/parts combination being tested.

The fact is there are so many variables when setting a car up on a dyno that numbers and performance can vary greatly. For example there are different types of dyno’s (Inertia, Eddy Current Brake & Hub Dyno.) Different horsepower dynamometers will spit out different results on the same car depending on their design and how carefully the tester manages the variables. Modern cars are gradually becoming too smart for what was once a simple test. Engines trying to squeeze out more horsepower are run by watchful computers with better sensors that are able to differentiate between speeding down a freeway with a cooling headwind and spinning the dyno drums in a stuffy room. The technology of today's cars needs to be factored into your readings along with variations from dyno type to dyno type, or your horsepower numbers may be inconsistent, too. There are so many variables to this setup that it is easy to understand how it is hard to compare data efficiently and effectively from car to car and most certainly from dyno to dyno.

There are a number of highly reputable companies out there that spend a lot of time and money properly tuning and dyno testing vehicles. At the same time there are also a number of companies that also put out inaccurate information to sell their products.

We have seen countless performance claims that have been put out to sell products or services that are simply not accurate. Time after time we see questionable dyno charts put out with absurdly high claims that are simply not possible for that specific model/ engine type. These dyno charts are misleading, modified and at times simply false representations of products gains. What’s more you rarely see how these companies get those numbers that they claim and never do they disclose the details of those quoted gains.

Just last month we took several identical cars that had various different brands ECU/ ECM modifications to do a proper comparison dyno test using the same vehicle with the same dyno under the same conditions with the only variable being the products installed. What we found is that all of these vehicles performed almost identically! In fact the dyno power curves were too almost identical to one another. What was interesting is that we claimed about a 15-20% gain in power with our particular product, the other competing vendors claimed increases that were drastically higher.

Because of all the misinformation that is out there we (MADNESS) decided to produce a video showing everyone how we dyno test our vehicles, how we tune (for our performance products) and the type of facility that we use when we are testing and tuning vehicles.

Our goal at MADNESS is to deliver you a product that performs reliably, while giving you gains that are usable and do not over stress the factory components. We do not play with dyno setting, temps, octane and dyno results to get a high number to sell a product. We simply deliver you a proven, well developed and tested product that is designed to perform.

In addition, on many products we offer a Money Back Guarantee (based on product type). We know by experience and testing that the products we put our name on will perform just as well if not better than some of the competing products that claim higher numbers.

Please note that there are many companies out there that provide accurate data and great service. Those are not who we are referencing. We are referencing companies that put up exaggerated claims with questionable dyno charts and then use anonymous online forums/ social media ID’s to back up those claims. Just remember if it sound too good to be true it most likely is!

Check out the video and as always if you ever have a question please do not hesitate to reach out to us directly.
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