[Robbome]

Hi 2015 Jeep Renegade 4x4 2ltr, my tpms says its unavailable I had National tyres take a look and found the sensor had come off the valve and loose no reading from it so assume its broken. He unfortunately could not replace the Sensor as he did not have the tech equip to read the new code and update the Ecu. I contacted Arnold Clark Jeep service and asked for a price to resolve this issue and Mot as its due soon. They are asking £180 diagnostics before they start the repair. Do any of you know of a garage KA13 7DX who can fit a new sensor and get the display working again.

 

[JeepCares]

Hi 2015 Jeep Renegade 4x4 2ltr, my tpms says its unavailable I had National tyres take a look and found the sensor had come off the valve and loose no reading from it so assume its broken. He unfortunately could not replace the Sensor as he did not have the tech equip to read the new code and update the Ecu. I contacted Arnold Clark Jeep service and asked for a price to resolve this issue and Mot as its due soon. They are asking £180 diagnostics before they start the repair. Do any of you know of a garage KA13 7DX who can fit a new sensor and get the display working again.

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[Ops]

could always see about buying a tpms sensor and have it installed

 

[Robbome]

could always see about buying a tpms sensor and have it installed

Hi yes I now have that in place sadly not until next week, I have phoned about 2 dozen garages Arnold clark the dealership want £180.00 to do a diagnostic to find the fault I already told them about so this will be ontop of the repair cost then Mot cost so a not so cheap fix. I have a Jeep approved garage doing the work plus Mot for the same price Arnold clark want for Diagnostics. Any who it's going into the Garage Monday to be repaired fingers crossed.

 

[Marek K]

According to my 2020 USB Service Manual, the TPMS sensor is removable from the valve stem. In fact, the valve stem (and core) is supposed to be replaced every time the tire is removed from the wheel.

To remove, the spring clip (item 5) is depressed with a small screwdriver, and the sensor is pulled off.

So is it possible that the clip wasn't quite latched; the sensor just came off the valve stem; and that nothing is really broken?

(Of course, if the sensor was then banging loose around inside the wheel and tire, it might be broken now... )

And yes, the Service Manual does say a new sensor has to be programmed before it works. But I'd think any good tire dealer would have the tool to do that -- a common brand that does that, at least here in the U.S., is Autel:

If you're confident the sensor or valve stem is broken, then asking a repair shop (or dealer) to just replace the sensor without doing any diagnostics should work. Problem might be that they wouldn't provide any warranty if it turns out that something else is wrong...

 

[Nev]

If you buy a sensor, make sure to buy the valve stem too as they are not "standard". There was also a spare stem included in the breakdown kit iirc.)

A new sensor will need to be OBD programmed to the car.

Any good tyre place with Fiat experience will do this for you.

My Fiat independent was able to rotate my wheels and re-assign the sensors to the new corners without any issue using his Fiat/MES set up.

 

[Robbome]

If you buy a sensor, make sure to buy the valve stem too as they are not "standard". There was also a spare stem included in the breakdown kit iirc.)

A new sensor will need to be OBD programmed to the car.

Any good tyre place with Fiat experience will do this for you.

My Fiat independent was able to rotate my wheels and re-assign the sensors to the new corners without any issue using his Fiat/MES set up.

Hi Nev thanks for your reply, I've got my car booked in with a Jeep approved Garage so fingers crossed they will sort it out, the guy seemed to know what he was talking about.

 

[Marek K]

I've got my car booked in with a Jeep approved Garage

Just out of curiosity, what does "Jeep-approved garage" mean -- at least for you guys in the UK?

Over here, as far as I know, car manufacturers don't "approve" independent garages -- that would be taking business away from them.

You have to carefully check with an independent shop to see 1) whether they've got the necessary diagnostic tools; and 2) whether they've got the experience working on your particular vehicle.

Of course, that's in addition to somehow checking that they do good work (we don't have the sort of structured apprentice system that, say, many European countries do); and that they don't try to up-sell you on stuff.

Maybe it's different Across the Pond...?

 

[SharpAndCunning]

If you buy a sensor, make sure to buy the valve stem too as they are not "standard". There was also a spare stem included in the breakdown kit iirc.)

A new sensor will need to be OBD programmed to the car.

Any good tyre place with Fiat experience will do this for you.

My Fiat independent was able to rotate my wheels and re-assign the sensors to the new corners without any issue using his Fiat/MES set up.

Good point about the spare stem!

 

[Robbome]

Good point about the spare stem!

Update.
Car was taken to Jeep Approve garage and a new sensor fitted to the Front driver wheel, and then MOT'ed she passed. Senors are fully working again. Thank you all for your comments and suggestions it is appreciated.

 

[Marek K]

Update.
Car was taken to Jeep Approve garage and a new sensor fitted to the Front driver wheel, and then MOT'ed she passed. Senors are fully working again. Thank you all for your comments and suggestions it is appreciated.

Glad to hear that. But again (see my Post #8), what does "Jeep-approved garage" mean?

 

[Robbome]

Glad to hear that. But again (see my Post #8), what does "Jeep-approved garage" mean?

Apparently: Approved is a garage that Jeep techs have said that this garage in as much that thier equipment, mechanical, and Knowledge base are suitable to work on Jeep Vehicles. National tyres who have an advert for tpms repairs could not repair the fault to my jeep, though they did find the faulty sensor!! Who knows ??.

 

[Marek K]

Apparently: Approved is a garage that Jeep techs have said that this garage in as much that thier equipment, mechanical, and Knowledge base are suitable to work on Jeep Vehicles.

Is it the "approved" garage itself that's saying this? Or corporate Jeep?

Because, again, I'd be really surprised if Jeep themselves did that, since it would be taking business away from them.

I suspect it's the independent garage itself saying that. Which isn't bad, since they're at least vouching that they've got the experience, skill, and equipment...

National tyres who have an advert for tpms repairs could not repair the fault to my jeep, though they did find the faulty sensor!! Who knows ??.

That tells me that National Tires -- er, Tyres -- did have a sensor tool (like the Autel I referenced above) that could read the signals being sent by each sensor. Replacing a TPMS sensor isn't rocket science -- I wonder why they couldn't do that? Maybe they couldn't get the Mopar sensor from a Jeep dealer...? That sort of thing is very common here in the U.S. -- in fact, car dealerships often have dedicated delivery people who take parts around to independent shops.

 

[puddlesplasher]

The Tyre/Exhaust company "Farmers" in Scotland ordered, and fitted a new one for me after it was dislodged during a tyre change.

It was about £20 a few years ago and naturally fitted/programmed for free.

 

[Robbome]

Is it the "approved" garage itself that's saying this? Or corporate Jeep?

Because, again, I'd be really surprised if Jeep themselves did that, since it would be taking business away from them.

I suspect it's the independent garage itself saying that. Which isn't bad, since they're at least vouching that they've got the experience, skill, and equipment...



That tells me that National Tires -- er, Tyres -- did have a sensor tool (like the Autel I referenced above) that could read the signals being sent by each sensor. Replacing a TPMS sensor isn't rocket science -- I wonder why they couldn't do that? Maybe they couldn't get the Mopar sensor from a Jeep dealer...? That sort of thing is very common here in the U.S. -- in fact, car dealerships often have dedicated delivery people who take parts around to independent shops.

Hi
The manager of National Tyres said he does not have the equipment, though he did quote me £150 to complete the repair after he discovered the fault. The Garage that Did the work charged me £135 for the tpms repair and £45 for the MOT and the garage order the sensor from Arnold Clark Jeep dealer. Also I found this Garage by Googling Jeep Repair Garages, and a list of 4 came up in my area Arnold Clark being the main dealer extemely costly and the Garage I picked close to where I live. Happy outcome. Thank you for your imput.

 

[puddlesplasher]

Well Rob, I don't think you want to open my link unless you have a tissue with you.

OEM TPMS

The above is why a lot of people don't use the Jeep Stealer, sorry Dealership.

However, it's all fixed now and you are happy, that's what counts.

 

[Marek K]

I found this Garage by Googling Jeep Repair Garages, and a list of 4 came up in my area

OK, so not exactly "Jeep approved;" the garages just probably listed Jeep as among the makes they work on (and hopefully have to experience an equipment for).

That's about the best you can hope for.

I wonder why the guys at National Tyres were so reluctant to do the work at first, if they (as it turned out) did have the diagnostic tool. Installing a sensor is trivial...

Well Rob, I don't think you want to open my link unless you have a tissue with you.

Yup. I'm finding the OEM TPMS sensors for the Jeep Renegade are a lot cheaper than that for our 2009 Volkswagens. Those were (still are) close to $150 apiece, plus installation. That's OEM; aftermarket ones are much more reasonable. You can also get "new-old" stock OEM sensors from resellers, for much cheaper; but then the batteries are almost-always old (shelf life averaging about 6-8 years).