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I know the they have announced The trailhawk can for go into 19" of water at 5mph but do you guys think it can go any deep?:|
I wouldn't. In my experience, there's two compelling reasons.

1) The water is running. This can get sketchy with a big heavy truck, something as light as the renegade would be deserving of even more caution.

2) The water is standing. Standing water can be covering a lot of bad things, but most often is soft ground. If it were like a samurai or sidekick where you could but some decent sized tires on this, it might actually do well here. In general, standing water should be dealt with cautiously at best, and I don't think anything about the renegade makes that moot. Since you won't be going fast if you do that, you really don't want to be soaking the bits not prepped for it.

SOme kind of organized event where things are scoped out well? Dunno. I wouldn't doubt their claims, and anything extra is happenstance unless the limiting factor is really jsut air intake or similar.
 

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I wouldn't try going deeper with a Renegade of my own but if you do have a chance to make it out to some event where they let you drive on through water, maybe you can take it into something as deep or a bit deeper. Better to mess up their Renegade than yours :D
 

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Im not saying Im gonna treat it like my Wrangler but sometimes by where I live when it rains a lot the roads flood and I don't think the exceed 19-20 inches but I mean if taking it to 21-24 inches of water slowly that's all, thanks for the replies
 

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Makes me wonder where the "water mark" is on the TH. The reference place on the body the driver can see out his window to know when he's gone as deep as he can. We used to use a piece of masking tape or a certain place on a fender flare, etc. Here its 19" up from the ground. :nerd:
 

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Makes me wonder where the "water mark" is on the TH. The reference place on the body the driver can see out his window to know when he's gone as deep as he can. We used to use a piece of masking tape or a certain place on a fender flare, etc. Here its 19" up from the ground. :nerd:
That would be awesome, even better if there was a sensor for that to let you know by what ever means of getting your attention that you have reached it's limit.
 

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Makes me wonder where the "water mark" is on the TH. The reference place on the body the driver can see out his window to know when he's gone as deep as he can. We used to use a piece of masking tape or a certain place on a fender flare, etc. Here its 19" up from the ground. :nerd:
Given that the wheel/tire combo is about 28 inches, I'm going to suggest that black plastic cladding on the door sill is pretty close to the line. Perhaps it is visible in the side view mirror.
 

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Since the ground clearance will be dismal on this vehicle, even at 19" you're going to have significant driveline sensors and parts dunked. Therefore, I personally would not do it. Sure, they may say you can do it, but I have also seen dealerships first hand deny warranty coverage due to "signs of abuse" from a Jeep simply being used offroad. It happens. Trust me.

You're going to have 13" to the hubs...beyond that water is getting into oiled/greased/electronic places where you really don't want it. If you're planning on water crossings, a real Jeep that will accomodate tall tires easily is the ticket.
 

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They appear to be. Also Mazda can tell them a bit about denying warranty for an activity they repeatedly advertise as something the vehicle is good at.

Precedent is on the side of the consumer.
Hi Raz, can you tell us a bit more about the Mazda issue, with links, sounds interesting to learn more?
 

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Hi Raz, can you tell us a bit more about the Mazda issue, with links, sounds interesting to learn more?
Wow, I figured that that story had aged a bit, but trying to find links it is jsut completely swamped by advertising in search enginges.

I wasn't an rx-7 owner at the time, but the news made the rounds to most import enthusiast circles. But basically the last generation FD body rx-7 was (is) notorious for blowing apex seals. That wasn't just an age thing, and they advertised the snot out of it as more or less a street legal race car. Mazda started denying apex seal failures under warranty because it was getting expensive, so they said it was abuse. The situation got all lawyery, and mazda's fallback position was that it was evidence of racing. To which the lawyers rolled out all of mazda's advertising for the rx-7, and the judge agreed with them that if you didn't modify the vehicle form stock, all the activities inherent in racing were what mazda was advertising the vehicle as capable of doing, and what the vehicle was designed for. It wasn't a corolla designed to get good milage while commuting and fetching groceries.

When the GT-R showed up with launch control built in and advertised as a feature, then nissan said if you ever use it, no warranty for you, the ghost of that case was invoked to explain to them that you can't do that. So we got the weird "use it more than six times or whatever, and it's abuse" rule.
 

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Wow. "Here's a factory feature. But if you use it, you lose it." Nice.

It'll be interesting how the guys in new Mustangs get along in using Line Lock Burnouts and warranties.

And I'm sure they'll be watching us Renegade guys with 19" water fording and warranty claims.

I can't wait till one of us fords 12", submits a tranny warranty claim, and is denied as flood damage and gets a salvage title.

I wouldn't care in days past when warrantys are 12/12. But now to 60/100? I see a GoPro on my Christmas list. For fun and CYA.
 
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