My local dealer doesn't really know, but thinks the Renegade will arrive in his dealership in early December or perhaps late November. We shall see. He said I could put down a deposit, order exactly the vehicle I want, and then get my deposit back if I don't like it. That sounds good, but I would want to have it in writing that I would get my deposit back. As much as the Renegade Trailhawk seems to be exactly the vehicle I need, I would never risk a deposit of any size at all on a vehicle I have never actually seen or driven. If I can be sure of getting my deposit back, that would be fine, but in that case the deposit would only be a small demonstration of the seriousness of my intent, and give them the opportunity to have a bit of my money interest free for a while. Anyway, I'll let you folks know what happens.