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i know this is a continuing subject. my vehicle 2017 trailhawk 2.4 burned 41/2 qts of oil in 3932 miles then STOPPED burning oil. now being paranoid about low oil i turn on my oven timer when i get home to check my oil TEN minutes after vehicle shut off last week checked oil (6800 miles) and was one quart low. replaced the quart. last night checked the oil and it was ONE quart HIGH. WHERE THE HE;LL DOES ONE QUART OF OIL HIDE IN A 2.4 FOUR CYLINDER VEHICLE. WHAT IS THE OIL PAN FOR IF NOT TO CATCH THE DRAIN OFF AT THE TIME THE ENGINE IS TURNED OFF AND GIVE ACCURATE OIL LEVELS
 

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why doesn't jeep step in and address this problem--- oil consumption test is a joke, they change the oil TIE down the dip stick so that you cannot check the oil yourself and tell you all is good 500 miles later. you read in here where vehicles stall and they find no oil in the engine. NOT good, many people do not even know what a dip stick is, that is basically useless if you cannot get an accurate reading
 

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The issue with oil consumption has been spoken of, and documented since 2014 when the first Renegades were delivered to customers. It is a fact that these engines drink an amount of oil. The oil is very thin in newer cars, and some engines tend to use oil because of that. My theory is that once one of these engines gets a quart or more low, the oil gets hotter and thinner, making the issue even more prominent. That is to say that that the lower the oil, the faster it goes away. I'm hesitant on saying that it's being burned because there would be an equal amount of catalytic converter complaints/replacements, and that's not happening. That being said, I don't know where the oil is going, since there are very few complaints of oil leaks.

For the people that do not even know what a dip stick is, this is a basic knowledge of driving a vehicle that should be carried out by the owner, or someone. Maybe I'm an exception, but I always have checked the oil more than regularly with a new car, just so I can have an idea if it will be an oil user. I adjust my oil checking intervals accordingly based on that.
 

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still does not tell me where one quart of oil can sit in an engine besides the oil pan and filter and show up on the stick one week later
SOMEONE must have the correct answer, valve guides, rings, valves not seating, all of this has been tossed around.they do not hold oil they allow it to be burned when not properly sealing. where are the real jeep mechanics, i am sorry i have always been a ford man, this oil crap the only hang up to a nice "RIDE"
 

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i know this is a continuing subject. my vehicle 2017 trailhawk 2.4 burned 41/2 qts of oil in 3932 miles then STOPPED burning oil. now being paranoid about low oil i turn on my oven timer when i get home to check my oil TEN minutes after vehicle shut off last week checked oil (6800 miles) and was one quart low. replaced the quart. last night checked the oil and it was ONE quart HIGH. WHERE THE HE;LL DOES ONE QUART OF OIL HIDE IN A 2.4 FOUR CYLINDER VEHICLE. WHAT IS THE OIL PAN FOR IF NOT TO CATCH THE DRAIN OFF AT THE TIME THE ENGINE IS TURNED OFF AND GIVE ACCURATE OIL LEVELS
Hi jeff1,
We’re sorry to hear about this. We certainly understand how frustrating this may be. Although we cannot determine the cause of this concern, please feel free to let us know via private message if you decide to address this with your dealer and we will gladly assist you during that process.
Lydia
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i know this is a continuing subject. my vehicle 2017 trailhawk 2.4 burned 41/2 qts of oil in 3932 miles then STOPPED burning oil. now being paranoid about low oil i turn on my oven timer when i get home to check my oil TEN minutes after vehicle shut off last week checked oil (6800 miles) and was one quart low. replaced the quart. last night checked the oil and it was ONE quart HIGH. WHERE THE HE;LL DOES ONE QUART OF OIL HIDE IN A 2.4 FOUR CYLINDER VEHICLE. WHAT IS THE OIL PAN FOR IF NOT TO CATCH THE DRAIN OFF AT THE TIME THE ENGINE IS TURNED OFF AND GIVE ACCURATE OIL LEVELS
Hi jeff1,
We’re sorry to hear about this. We certainly understand how frustrating this may be. Although we cannot determine the cause of this concern, please feel free to let us know via private message if you decide to address this with your dealer and we will gladly assist you during that process.
Lydia
Jeep Social Care Specialist
My dealership found the same problem with my car when I brought it in for some weird noises, I have a 2018 Trailhawk and noises started after 10k miles. My Renegade spent a whole month in the dealer trying to figure out what was wrong. On top of that they crashed my car.

6k miles later, jeep noises are increasing and oil consumption is still bad. Dealership doesn't want to take care of it.

So tell me how do we go from here?
All of camping trips and meet ups have been cancelled. This jeep has been no fun. 😢
 

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My dealership found the same problem with my car when I brought it in for some weird noises, I have a 2018 Trailhawk and noises started after 10k miles. My Renegade spent a whole month in the dealer trying to figure out what was wrong. On top of that they crashed my car.

6k miles later, jeep noises are increasing and oil consumption is still bad. Dealership doesn't want to take care of it.

So tell me how do we go from here?
All of camping trips and meet ups have been cancelled. This jeep has been no fun. 😢
Oh no! We're sorry to hear about this, Diemartil. Please send us a private message at your earliest convenience so we can gather some additional information from you and have this looked into.
Lydia
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I’ve had this issue as well.
My ‘17 renegade th was consuming 1qt/1000 miles, basically leaving me with little or no oil at oil change intervals.The dealer had performed 4 oil consumption tests, each indicating the above mentioned consumption. After the 4th test, they sent paperwork to Fiat and my car was approved for a engine block replacement. I have had no issues since then.
 

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I’ve had this issue as well.
My ‘17 renegade th was consuming 1qt/1000 miles, basically leaving me with little or no oil at oil change intervals.The dealer had performed 4 oil consumption tests, each indicating the above mentioned consumption. After the 4th test, they sent paperwork to Fiat and my car was approved for a engine block replacement. I have had no issues since then.
This is good to know as I just finished my last oil consumption test and I was going through 2 to 3 quarts per 1000 mile. Waiting for the dealership to submit the paperwork. Do you know if they replace any other parts besides the block?
 

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This is good to know as I just finished my last oil consumption test and I was going through 2 to 3 quarts per 1000 mile. Waiting for the dealership to submit the paperwork. Do you know if they replace any other parts besides the block?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe they replace the Short-Block Assembly. A Short-Block is just a block with crankshaft, rods and pistons.
 

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I believe they replace the Short-Block Assembly. A Short-Block is just a block with crankshaft, rods and pistons.
Just spoke to the dealership and it is just the short-block assembly. Mine goes in on Monday.
 

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my first Renegade 2015 consumed oil, Not that bad,, My new one 2017 is not. Had not had to add. I check like the manual says 5 mins after shutting it off on a level surface. Been good so far. My big problem is where do I refill my blinker fluid?
 

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my first Renegade 2015 consumed oil, Not that bad,, My new one 2017 is not. Had not had to add. I check like the manual says 5 mins after shutting it off on a level surface. Been good so far. My big problem is where do I refill my blinker fluid?
I think the Blinkah fluid is next to the accelerator fluid. :laugh:
 

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Lydia...terrible link name JEEP CARES...have sent you or the link several questions and concerns and have never received a reply.WHAT doe it take to get FCA attention
 

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all short block replacements do not replace the valve guides and seals. MY dealer told me the valves guides take a while to "break in" and that may have been my problem. you guys getting new short blocks better question the valves/valve guides. all they do is pull the heads, hopefully clean and put on the new block. bad guides will burn oil
 
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