[Mud Pie]

Yeah, the unlockable fuel door is yet another "feature" of this vehicle that amazes me. No gas cap, but a plastic post that clicks the flap closed. WHY ?? Can't just flip the flap open and spin off a gas cap like gas flaps of time eternal ? That plastic post WILL wear out, it WILL break. Now you gotta deal with a light blinking and dinging on your dash until you buy another plastic part. And it won't be a simple snap in procedure, it'll be something like; 1. Remove negative battery cable. 2. Jack up vehicle and remove left rear tire. 3. Remove wheel well, be advised the clips will be destroyed. 4. Remove old post using Jeep Tool #12345. 5. Install new post. 6. Install new clips to hold wheel well. 7. Install wheel well. 8. Install rear wheel. 9. Connect negative battery cable. 10. Say hello to the Italian spider, shut fuel door. 11. Visit your nearest Jeep dealership to have the faulty fuel flap code cleared on your dash cluster (not user resettable).

I don't understand why the flap doesn't self-lock, that's a feature that's been standard on vehicles for, oh, 40-50 years ?

 

[puddlesplasher]

I don't understand why the flap doesn't self-lock, that's a feature that's been standard on vehicles for, oh, 40-50 years ?

What confuses me is why I have it on a UK model yet other countries don't have such a simple feature that must cost pennies to install during manufacture.

Is it the country that imports vehicles that get to decide what a vehicle will have/not have?

 

[WATERNYC]

@WATERNYC, Jason is 100% correct.
.......
Fear not and carry on with securing your fuel door.

Point well said, and well taken.

 

[WATERNYC]

What confuses me is why I have it on a UK model yet other countries don't have such a simple feature that must cost pennies to install during manufacture.

Is it the country that imports vehicles that get to decide what a vehicle will have/not have?

It is weird, because I actually custom ordered my Trailhawk, but it was something that was never mentioned. Although it does have, as in the pics, all the right parts that seem to want to be a lock...but no.

 

[Mud Pie]

It is weird, because I actually custom ordered my Trailhawk, but it was something that was never mentioned. Although it does have, as in the pics, all the right parts that seem to want to be a lock...but no.

I agree, I would've thought it would be standard, much like you don't ask if it comes with 4 tires instead of 3. I actually thought mine did lock until the first time I washed it and the flap popped loose. Like a fool I stood there with my key fob locking the doors and pressing on that flap, only to have it pop open no matter what.

 

[WATERNYC]

So just to move this along....to an actual physical solution. Which is the part number that I could do this with. I found 68461182AA .
1. Not sure where the door popper is or if it is included? Is it another part number?
2. And what would be the best way to mod it electronically?
drum role........would the dealer be able to wire it in the the current system?????

....probably better if I did it with a secret switch hidden under a jeep logo somewhere....

 

[JustinC1431]

68461182AA is the housing that is already in all of the Renegades. It's not designed to have a popper or lock. It's just a press and release spring loaded catch. That part will do you no good unless yours is broken and needs to be replaced.

 

[Jamie Smith]

Can I ask why? I hope you can find a solution your happy with, but if I had a cap that you had to lock, it would annoy me.


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[WATERNYC]

Can I ask why? I hope you can find a solution your happy with, but if I had a cap that you had to lock, it would annoy me.


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Jamie, just to satisfy my personal OCD.
(Although to be clear; what I in fact want to do, is not lock it myself, but have it lock automatically with the door locks. So it won't annoy me as well)

 

[WATERNYC]

68461182AA is the housing that is already in all of the Renegades. It's not designed to have a popper or lock. It's just a press and release spring loaded catch. That part will do you no good unless yours is broken and needs to be replaced.

Justin, What is the correct part number with the popper-lock?... like in the 2015 version above...

 

[Mud Pie]

To me, it seems the project would involve a lot more than doing what I call, "installing factory part B". The flap, as it exists, requires the user to depress the flap inward to release the catch then manually pulling it open. Installing part B wouldn't complete that action, so something else would also need to be modified. Then there is the issue of wiring. Is the connector already there ? If we rely on the assumption that it is, is the computer able to be programmed to allow the newly-installed Part B to free the flap lock on vehicle when the doors are unlocked and lock when the doors are locked ? And do you know of a dealer that will attempt such "unauthorized" programming ?? If you find it locks but doesn't unlock, that's a VERY undesirable action, especially when your fuel gauge says feed me. Sure, you can avoid the whole factory-look and run your own wire and mag-lock or some such, because tapping into the CANBUS wiring will only give you headaches. Hell, installing the wrong type of light bulbs makes this Jeep crap itself and turn in tiny circles.

While I fully understand your desires, I personally feel it's best it remains on your wish list and leave things be. With all the "if's" involved, I feel it's just not worth it.

In closing, I wish my flap locked.

 

[WATERNYC]

To me, it seems the project would involve a lot more than doing what I call, "installing factory part B". The flap, as it exists, requires the user to depress the flap inward to release the catch then manually pulling it open. Installing part B wouldn't complete that action, so something else would also need to be modified. Then there is the issue of wiring. Is the connector already there ? If we rely on the assumption that it is, is the computer able to be programmed to allow the newly-installed Part B to free the flap lock on vehicle when the doors are unlocked and lock when the doors are locked ? And do you know of a dealer that will attempt such "unauthorized" programming ?? If you find it locks but doesn't unlock, that's a VERY undesirable action, especially when your fuel gauge says feed me. Sure, you can avoid the whole factory-look and run your own wire and mag-lock or some such, because tapping into the CANBUS wiring will only give you headaches. Hell, installing the wrong type of light bulbs makes this Jeep crap itself and turn in tiny circles.

While I fully understand your desires, I personally feel it's best it remains on your wish list and leave things be. With all the "if's" involved, I feel it's just not worth it.

In closing, I wish my flap locked.

Yes, you’ve managed to put all my concerns in writing! Exactly what I meant with the previous comments regarding warranty.

In any case my “most-likely” solution is as you said to find the correct part numbers, for said Part A “door” and Part B “housing”; disregard any prexisting wiring; install parts A and B, run my own wire to the dash with a stylish JEEP button somewhere and be free of all the headaches.
My only question is what are the part numbers for A and B?

 

[Mud Pie]

Yes, you’ve managed to put all my concerns in writing! Exactly what I meant with the previous comments regarding warranty.

In any case my “most-likely” solution is as you said to find the correct part numbers, for said Part A “door” and Part B “housing”; disregard any prexisting wiring; install parts A and B, run my own wire to the dash with a stylish JEEP button somewhere and be free of all the headaches.
My only question is what are the part numbers for A and B?

I'm sure your dealer would be friendly enough to supply those part numbers. My dealer parts counter guys and gals are extremely helpful in that way. I just ask politely, "I want to order part ____ but I need the factory numbers. I plan on ordering it online to try and save some money.". Not one time have I been refused and most time they understand and agree with me. In fact, the few times I DO order from them, they have suggested I buy online instead of from them. Most times when I'm getting it from them I need it now, but I appreciate their effort.

 

[JustinC1431]

Justin, What is the correct part number with the popper-lock?... like in the 2015 version above...

I've never seen a Renegade with a locking fuel door option. In all my searching I can't find anything factory that would be plug and play.

 

[babelhoo]

The version sold in Latin America has a locking flap even on the cheapest version. Guess gas siphoning might be a thing in some countries? Don’t recall there’s anything visible when opening the flap. Will check tomorrow. I’m sure it locks as I have it set to only open the driver’s door with a single key press on the remote (the old 4 button remote, no keyless) and always forget to unlock it in the gas station and have to press the switch on the door which unlocks all doors + truck and gas flap.

 

[20renegade16]

I bought a locking cap from amazon. Works just fine when properly locked. May have to turn cap but it DOES work!! Happy Jeeping

 

[WATERNYC]

The version sold in Latin America has a locking flap even on the cheapest version. Guess gas siphoning might be a thing in some countries? Don’t recall there’s anything visible when opening the flap. Will check tomorrow. I’m sure it locks as I have it set to only open the driver’s door with a single key press on the remote (the old 4 button remote, no keyless) and always forget to unlock it in the gas station and have to press the switch on the door which unlocks all doors + truck and gas flap.

Awesome waiting for pictures and a part number please...

 

[WATERNYC]

I've never seen a Renegade with a locking fuel door option. In all my searching I can't find anything factory that would be plug and play.

I don't mind if it is not plug and play....as I am not planning to plug it in to my pre-existing CANBUS; rather I will use the part's wiring to connect to and run my own wiring to my own custom button on the dash. Clarification....what I want to be, at least somewhat plug-n-play, is the whole Part A(the housing) and Part B(fuel door).

 

[babelhoo]

Awesome waiting for pictures and a part number please...

Not sure where the part number might be! (without taking it apart)
Sorry for the delay. Visually checking the lid it doesn’t have any visible catch, so I guess the lock engages in the same pin that the push to release mechanism uses.

to ensure you guys I’m not crazy, here’s a quick video

 

[JustinC1431]

Not sure where the part number might be! (without taking it apart)
Sorry for the delay. Visually checking the lid it doesn’t have any visible catch, so I guess the lock engages in the same pin that the push to release mechanism uses.

to ensure you guys I’m not crazy, here’s a quick video

Any chance you have time to remove the speaker grill inside and get some shots of what is inside the fender? My guess is that it's a small servo with a catch for the head of that push pin.